The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 22nd June) - Arsenal now favourites to sign Raphinha

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 22nd June) - Arsenal now favourites to sign Raphinha

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Yes I’d forgotten about Jody Morris - what a player. All the others mentioned above were not much to write home about were they? 😜
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Byebyegeegee wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:41 pm Yes I’d forgotten about Jody Morris - what a player. All the others mentioned above were not much to write home about were they? 😜

He always reminded me of those flying monkeys in The Wizard Of Oz.

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See we're being linked to Tyler Adams again; probably because he's America and nothing to do with his undoubted lack of ability to cut it in the PL.

Very happy that Minamino is going somewhere else.
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Gandalf wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:46 pm Billy Bremner, Johnny Giles, Bobby Collins.
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They were also hard as nails as well.
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Rover wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:46 pm See we're being linked to Tyler Adams again; probably because he's America and nothing to do with his undoubted lack of ability to cut it in the PL.

Very happy that Minamino is going somewhere else.
Tyler Adams can cut it in any league. If we have to replace Kalvin we could do a lot worse than Adams.

Pulisic, Aaronson, Adams, Gio Reyna, and Dest are the only Americans I would consider.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:08 pm Tyler Adams can cut it in any league. If we have to replace Kalvin we could do a lot worse than Adams.

Pulisic, Aaronson, Adams, Gio Reyna, and Dest are the only Americans I would consider.
No, Adams is not strong enough for the physicality of the PL.

Sander Berge would be a far better option for less money. IMHO.
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Rover wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:22 pm No, Adams is not strong enough for the physicality of the PL.

Sander Berge would be a far better option for less money. IMHO.
We shall agree to disagree.

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John in Louisiana wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:08 pm Tyler Adams can cut it in any league. If we have to replace Kalvin we could do a lot worse than Adams.

Pulisic, Aaronson, Adams, Gio Reyna, and Dest are the only Americans I would consider.
Right now I’d take McKennie at Juventus and Gio Reyna at Dortmund over the rest.
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Gabolt wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:40 pm Right now I’d take McKennie at Juventus and Gio Reyna at Dortmund over the rest.
Gio Reyna would be a fantastic pick-up. Don't know that he's available, though.

Forgot about McKennie. He's superb.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:08 pm Tyler Adams can cut it in any league. If we have to replace Kalvin we could do a lot worse than Adams.

Pulisic, Aaronson, Adams, Gio Reyna, and Dest are the only Americans I would consider.
Agree. I'd be right behind signing Adams. Sad that so many just think that if they're American they must be crap. US has several rising stars right now. Alphonso Davis (Canadian I know) is probably the best LB in the world right now.
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I don’t see Adams as anything but a great fit in Marsch’s system. He knows the system and plays it very well. BUT if Marsch get fired in October Leeds is stuck with a DM that would be average in another system. Exactly what’s happened to him at Leipzig. Great when in the Ragnick/Marsch system. Expendable otherwise.
If it was a loan with option to buy it would be perfect. Paying £20-25M for him is a leap of faith.
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Gabolt wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:06 pm I don’t see Adams as anything but a great fit in Marsch’s system. He knows the system and plays it very well. BUT if Marsch get fired in October Leeds is stuck with a DM that would be average in another system. Exactly what’s happened to him at Leipzig. Great when in the Ragnick/Marsch system. Expendable otherwise.
If it was a loan with option to buy it would be perfect. Paying £20-25M for him is a leap of faith.
Can anybody give an example where 4-2-2-2 has been a success in any of the top 5 leagues? It hasn't happened because the full backs push too far forward and get exposed defensively! Ragnick couldn't make it work with the most expensive squad in world football at Man U.
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Rover wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:11 pm Can anybody give an example where 4-2-2-2 has been a success in any of the top 5 leagues? It hasn't happened because the full backs push too far forward and get exposed defensively! Ragnick couldn't make it work with the most expensive squad in world football at Man U.
Can they fck,

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Rover wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:11 pm Can anybody give an example where 4-2-2-2 has been a success in any of the top 5 leagues? It hasn't happened because the full backs push too far forward and get exposed defensively! Ragnick couldn't make it work with the most expensive squad in world football at Man U.
Ragnick couldnt get it to work that's true.
Was it because.
1. The squad he had were so disenfranchised they weren't bothered to learn it.?
2. The system itself is awf to play?
3. An other.

I suppose we will learn soon enough. But expect teams to be getting in behind us next season on a regular basis if we go for the willy shape.
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