Daniel Farke - Press Conference prior West Ham.

[Jaydog]

At least Farke has his strengths, he's a massive improvement on Marsch, Christiansen and Allardyce. Slightly above Heckingbottom, well below Bielsa

Gracia is the mystery, was doing well then lost the dressing room inside 15 minutes...

I do think it’s a bit harsh to compare Farke to Marsch (Cjay). As if Marsch could get 2 promotions from the Championship. Could he f**k. However he could and did emulate Farke in the PL.

[The Subhuman]

Next England manager after Toon

Not if he's sacked...

[The Subhuman]

I do think it’s a bit harsh to compare Farke to Marsch (Cjay). As if Marsch could get 2 promotions from the Championship. Could he f**k. However he could and did emulate Farke in the PL.

I'm of the school of thought you need to spend big to stand any chance of staying up after promotion. Norwich didn't, nor have last seasons 3. Though in their case not for the lack of trying.

[Jaydog]

Not if he's sacked...

You mean the FA don’t employ sacked managers?
Surely Allardyce was

[Jaydog]

I'm of the school of thought you need to spend big to stand any chance of staying up after promotion. Norwich didn't, nor have last seasons 3. Though in their case not for the lack of trying.

I imagine it helps but there are examples of teams that didn’t spend big.

[The Subhuman]

I imagine it helps but there are examples of teams that didn’t spend big.

Very few and with each passing year the gap gets bigger. I said a the start of the season Luton have the best chance as they play physical non premier type football. Burnley and Sheff U play a poor man's version of premier football with players not quite good enough to compete on a level playing field..

[Cjay]

At least Farke has his strengths, he's a massive improvement on Marsch, Christiansen and Allardyce. Slightly above Heckingbottom, well below Bielsa

Gracia is the mystery, was doing well then lost the dressing room inside 15 minutes...

Is he?

Marsch had a better Bundesliga and Premier League record.

Allardyce had a better Championship and Premier League one.

Even Hecky as crap as he was didn't get near Farke's appalling Premier League record.

And even Gracia by the age Farke is now had had multiple promotions, and lost in the strange Spanish playoffs system despite finishing 1st and 2nd in the 2nd division didn't get promoted and lead a team to two comfortable mid table La Liga finishes.

And even TC was on target to beat Farke's first season Norwich points total.

[Cjay]

I do think it’s a bit harsh to compare Farke to Marsch (Cjay). As if Marsch could get 2 promotions from the Championship. Could he f**k. However he could and did emulate Farke in the PL.

They have managed in the same League twice, Marsch as bad as he was had a better record both times.

[The Subhuman]

Is he?

Marsch had a better Bundesliga and Premier League record.

Allardyce had a better Championship and Premier League one.

Even Hecky as crap as he was didn't get near Farke's appalling Premier League record.

And even Gracia by the age Farke is now had had multiple promotions, and lost in the strange Spanish playoffs system despite finishing 1st and 2nd in the 2nd division didn't get promoted and lead a team to two comfortable mid table La Liga finishes.

And even TC was on target to beat Farke's first season Norwich points total.

Who else did Marsch manage in the premier league because he was shite with us...

[JoeDenver]

Who else did Marsch manage in the premier league because he was shite with us...

Think that was Cjay's point...illustrating just how shite Farke was in the Premier League

[Cjay]

Who else did Marsch manage in the premier league because he was shite with us...

Shite absolutely but significantly better than Farke.

Marsch
33 points from 32 games
1.03 ppg
1.2 goals scored per game
1.65 conceded
46% loss percentage.
25% win percentage

Farke
26 points from 49games
0.53 ppg
0.6 scored per game
2.06 conceded
71% loss percentage
12% win percentage


Marsch was bad

Farke was literally the worst manager with 25+ games in Premier League history

[Jaydog]

Who else did Marsch manage in the premier league because he was shite with us...

We’re talking abroad. Germany is it. I’m not sure

[The Subhuman]

Think that was Cjay's point...illustrating just how shite Farke was in the Premier League

Marsch bought in players for his campaign and they were his not Orta's, Norwich didn't really ... I think Farke would have done better than Marsch had he come in the season after Bielsa, had a pre season and got the players he wanted.

No way to prove that of course but Marsch let the side rot

[The Subhuman]

Shite absolutely but significantly better than Farke.

Marsch
33 points from 32 games
1.03 ppg
1.2 goals scored per game
1.65 conceded
46% loss percentage.
25% win percentage

Farke
26 points from 49games
0.53 ppg
0.6 scored per game
2.06 conceded
71% loss percentage
12% win percentage


Marsch was bad

Farke was literally the worst manager with 25+ games in Premier League history

Again Norwich refused to spend money.. Had We stuck with Bielsa's Championship side we'd have finished bottom 3. Stats DO NOT show the whole picture, they barely show a third of it

[Jaydog]

They have managed in the same League twice, Marsch as bad as he was had a better record both times.

Ah so you mean 2 different seasons. Ok.
I hear what your saying and stats back you up but if I had to choose it would be Farke purely because I quite like him
But seriously don’t sack Farke now ffs.

[Cjay]

Again Norwich refused to spend money.. Had We stuck with Bielsa's Championship side we'd have finished bottom 3. Stats DO NOT show the whole picture, they barely show a third of it

Dyche had a comparative spend at Burnley per season and kept them up for years.

Allardyce did the same.

Gary O'Neil lost 17 players this summer with Julen Lopetegui quitting over the state of the Wolves squad saying he had an impossible task, Wolves sit comfortably in 11th unbeaten in 8 at home.

Plenty of managers in the 30+ years of the Premier League will have hard luck stories.

[The Subhuman]

Dyche had a comparative spend at Burnley per season and kept them up for years.

Allardyce did the same.

Gary O'Neil lost 17 players this summer with Julen Lopetegui quitting over the state of the Wolves squad saying he had an impossible task, Wolves sit comfortably in 11th unbeaten in 8 at home.

Plenty of managers in the 30+ years of the Premier League will have hard luck stories.

Wolves are a fairly established prem team IIRC... they came up before us and it would be our 4th season had we avoided relegation. Alladyce for West Ham? We're getting on for ten years plus there and it's gotten a lot harder since then. Plus no clue how much they spent comparatively

[Kennyb41]

Why you out to destroy DF Cjay before he's been given a fair crack of the whip, what you sulking about ?

[Cjay]

Wolves are a fairly established prem team IIRC... they came up before us and it would be our 4th season had we avoided relegation. Alladyce for West Ham? We're getting on for ten years plus there and it's gotten a lot harder since then. Plus no clue how much they spent comparatively

Established or not doesn't change the fact 7 of there most used 11 players last season all left.

They didn't make a single new signing who hadn't been a loan till the 20th of July and the other signings all on deadline day.

Plenty of managers over 30+ years can have complaints they didn't get the ideal squad or backing.

But Farke was still comfortably the worst ever.

[Cjay]

Why you out to destroy DF Cjay before he's been given a fair crack of the whip, what you sulking about ?

Not destroying him Kenny

My word isn't going to get him sacked

Just think he gets far more benefit of the doubt than he deserves.

We've had managers hammered for the things he does but Farke gets " ah he needs new players"

Sorry but I know a bad manager when I see one and I've seen enough from Farke to know bar chucking a fortune at him so he can bully poorer clubs with talented individuals (not a long term strategy for us) he isn't the man for us.