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Cjay wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:54 pm Its the truth :lol:

Look at some of our past squads, even look at Burnley last season.

This is one of the strongest squads in Championship history.

Plenty of managers have said the same as Corberan.

Whatever our fans think the perception from the opposition doesn't match that.
I buy expensive running trainers but I’m still not Mo Farah.
Maybe some of them are overrated.
But I would expect other managers to big us up before a big game. Classic gamesmanship from Corberan.
The only one that can’t is Maresca as they are similar in terms of quality.
We are still a few players shy of this wonder squad we are supposed to have.
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Taken totally out of context as per.

I've come to expect it now.
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Cjay wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm All this talk about poor Farke and his lack of options.

Managers in the league don't agree.

"Without any type of doubt, Leeds is one of the best squads in the Championship," Corberan.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.birm ... 359743.amp

Seems the other managers in this league don't think Farke is struggling for options.
He's not, we have either the best or second best squad in the division. We have one of the best CB's in the league can't even get on the bench
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:00 pm I buy expensive running trainers but I’m still not Mo Farah.
Maybe some of them are overrated.
But I would expect other managers to big us up before a big game. Classic gamesmanship from Corberan.
The only one that can’t is Maresca as they are similar in terms of quality.
We are still a few players shy of this wonder squad we are supposed to have.
You've just said yourself only Leicester are similar in quality :lol:

So it's a top 2 squad as you have just said.

It's not a perfect squad, if Farke requires a perfect squad then that says everything because basically no team has that.
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The Subhuman wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:16 pm He's not, we have either the best or second best squad in the division. We have one of the best CB's in the league can't even get on the bench
For this level the squad is elite.

It's not perfect, it has gaps, but for a 2nd division squad it's about as good as you will get.

Even Wolves with Jorge Mendes handing them players on a plate were having to use bang average Championship players like Ryan Bennett and Danny Baath or kids who went on to do nothing like Bright Enobakhare.

The idea the squad is weak just doesn't make sense in the context of the division we are in.
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Cjay wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:41 pm You've just said yourself only Leicester are similar in quality :lol:

So it's a top 2 squad as you have just said.
Not really disputing that I’m saying other managers like Corberan use it for a bit of gamesmanship. You’re way better than us how on earth could we possibly beat you. It’s an old one tbh.
Having the best squad doesn’t always pan out positively and there can be myriad reasons for that.
Personally I’m not a massive Farke lover or hater. I’m somewhere in the middle atm.
However getting rid now is all very well but who for exactly and I’d say forget the playoffs if you start piss balling about with management now. Let him be and judge him at seasons end.
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:49 pm Not really disputing that I’m saying other managers like Corberan use it for a bit of gamesmanship. You’re way better than us how on earth could we possibly beat you. It’s an old one tbh.
Having the best squad doesn’t always pan out positively and there can be myriad reasons for that.
Personally I’m not a massive Farke lover or hater. I’m somewhere in the middle atm.
The point was people keep Criticising the squad as fans do.

I understand that, we have players we like and players we don't.

But in context, for this league, this squad on paper is as good as you will get.

Football isn't played on paper of course but in terms of excuses squad quality is a very weak one imo.

Our club let Marsch be and look how that ended?

I don't believe Farke was the best manager we could get, he was just an obvious choice for an under qualified management team (what do Marathe, Kinnear, a physio and a furniture salesman know about doing a deep dive on a manager).

Could we get better now? I think so.

But it would require us to widen our gaze
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We have a Championship squad and are in contention for promotion with it.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:54 pm We have a Championship squad and are in contention for promotion with it.
9 points off 2nd and 17 off 1st.

Closer to Swansea in 17th than Leicester in 1st

The same points to us and Rooney at Birmingham as to Leicester
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Cjay wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:52 pm The point was people keep Criticising the squad as fans do.

I understand that, we have players we like and players we don't.

But in context, for this league, this squad on paper is as good as you will get.

Football isn't played on paper of course but in terms of excuses squad quality is a very weak one imo.
No I wouldn’t give Farke that excuse. Definitely not.
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We're not gonna get relegated if that's wod tha means.
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It’s not too long ago that we used to say that playing Leeds was the other team’s cup final and they would save their best performance of the season for us.

Not anymore.

None of the teams who’ve beaten us lately have done anything more than set themselves up in a system to contain us, and the system is so simple as long as they concentrate they’re able to stick to it. Not cup final stuff at all. In fact as boring as drying paint.

The one team who came to give us a game (Ipswich) got soundly thrashed. No manager is going to make that mistake again this season. A boring second half to the season awaits unless DF finds a magic formula.
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm No I wouldn’t give Farke that excuse. Definitely not.
You weren't keen at all on his appointment I seem to remember.

Quite a few weren't actually.

Many criticised the targets and the narrowness of the criteria.

People seem to have forgotten how meh the reaction was to his appointment.

Also people on that thread saying how managers should be able to cope with 1 or 2 injuries (Bert discussion) but now making excuses for Farke and his record at Norwich :duno:

I genuinely don't understand what it is about Farke that has gotten this level of loyalty and excuse making (not aimed at you)

Just went back looking for the poll we had and found the other thread

The reaction was distinctly meh
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Cjay wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:01 pm You weren't keen at all on his appointment I seem to remember.

Quite a few weren't actually.

Many criticised the targets and the narrowness of the criteria.

People seem to have forgotten how meh the reaction was to his appointment.

Also people on that thread saying how managers should be able to cope with 1 or 2 injuries (Bert discussion) but now making excuses for Farke and his record at Norwich :duno:

I genuinely don't understand what it is about Farke that has gotten this level of loyalty and excuse making (not aimed at you)

Just went back looking for the poll we had and found the other thread

The reaction was distinctly meh
The last list saw Farke, Gerard & Vieira top the betting.
Some thought Vieira may have been a better bet but Farke had success in his CV that was more relevant.
I wanted Luis Enrique but he wouldn’t piss on the Championship if it was on fire
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:45 pm The last list saw Farke, Gerard & Vieira top the betting.
Some thought Vieira may have been a better bet but Farke had success in his CV that was more relevant.
I wanted Luis Enrique but he wouldn’t piss on the Championship if it was on fire
I say grab Eddie Howe when Newcastle fire him. We have the last English manager to win the top division, I want the next one too
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The Subhuman wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:03 pm I say grab Eddie Howe when Newcastle fire him. We have the last English manager to win the top division, I want the next one too
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mentalcase wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:07 pm Like it Sir :tup:
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:45 pm The last list saw Farke, Gerard & Vieira top the betting.
Some thought Vieira may have been a better bet but Farke had success in his CV that was more relevant.
I wanted Luis Enrique but he wouldn’t piss on the Championship if it was on fire
The list was narrow because according to Phil Hay the board had decided domestic targets were the only ones they wanted and ideally Championship experience.

That's what happens when you have Angus Kinnear asking advice from Sam Allardyce.

I'm no fan of Orta but when the 49ers advised to get the best manager we could and asked Orta he said Bielsa.

Kinnear said Farke?

The best manager he could think of? Nonsense.

He took advice from Allardyce and had a Google.
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At least Farke has his strengths, he's a massive improvement on Marsch, Christiansen and Allardyce. Slightly above Heckingbottom, well below Bielsa

Gracia is the mystery, was doing well then lost the dressing room inside 15 minutes...
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The Subhuman wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:03 pm I say grab Eddie Howe when Newcastle fire him. We have the last English manager to win the top division, I want the next one too
Next England manager after Toon
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