Victor Orta Hall of fame

[Cjay]

Someone asked for all of his signings since he arrived (Kenny I think).

Well here it is (May have missed an u23 or two but I think there is enough on here to be getting on with).

1)Adam Forshaw -£4.5mil

2)Pontus Jansson (already on loan pre Orta) £3.5m

3)Samu Saiz £3.1mil

4)Tyler Roberts £2.6mil

5)Gianni Alioski £2.25mil

6)Mateusz Klich ( was recommended by Monk) £1.5mil

7)Laurens De Bock-£1.5mil

8)Hadi Sacko (already on loan) £1.5mil

9)Pawel Cibicki £1.5mil

10)Jay Roy Grot £1.5mil

11)Yosuke Ideguchi £0.5mil

12)Celebrity Ekuban £0.5mil

13)Aapo Halme £0.4mil

14)Felix Wieldwald £0.4mil

15)Vurnon Anita (free)

16)Quasim Bouy (free)

17)Andy Lonergan (free)

18)Magder Gomes (free)

19)Sam Dalby (free)

20)Jordan Stevens (unknown)

21)Cameron Borthwick-Jackson (loan)

22)Pierre Michel-Lasogga (loan)

23)Mathew Pennington (loan)

24Kamil Miazek (free)

25)Hugo Diaz (free)

26)Adrian Balboa (free)

27)Oriol Rey (free)

28)Qusama Siddiki (free)

29)Oliver Sarkic (unknown)

30)Pascal Struijk (unknown)

31)Kun Temenuzhkov (unknown)

32)Bryce Hosannah (unknown)

33)Patrick Bamford £7mil

34)Barry Douglas £3mil

35)Mateusz Bogusz £0.09k

36)Kiko Casilla (free)

37)Leif Davis (unknown)

38)Lewis Baker (Loan)

39)Izzy Brown (Loan)

40)Jack Harrison £11-20mil with fees but unknown total


41)Jamal Blackman (Loan).


42)Rafa Mujica (free)

43)Guille Amor (free)

44)Elia Caprille (unknown)

45)Ian Poveda (free)

46)Liam McCarron (unknown)

47)Helder Costa (£21mil)

48)Jean Kevin-Augustin (£2-3mil loan fee and potentially £18mil plus wages)

49)Eddie Nketiah (loan with loan fee around £2-3mil)

50)Illan Meslier £5.75mil

51)Ben White (loan).

52)Rodrigo £27mil

53)Diego Llorente £18mil

54)Raphinha £17mil

55)Robin Koch £12mil

56)Joe Gelhardt £0.9mil

57)Sam Greenwood £1.5mil

58)Cody Drameh £0.4mil

59)Dani Van Den Huevel (free)

60)Crysencio Summerville (unknown)

61)Dan James £25mil

62)Junior Firpo £16mil

63)Kristoffer Klaesson £1.8mil

64)Lewis Bate £1.5mil

65)Leo Hjelde (unknown)

66)Sean McGurk (unknown)

67)Mateo Fernandez (unknown)

68Amari Miller (unknown)

Brendan Aaronson-£25m

Tyler Adams- £20mil

Max Wober- £12mil

Rasmus Kristensen-£10mil

Marc Roca- £10mil

Luis Sinisterra-£21mil

Wilfred Gnonto- unknown

Giorginio Rutter- £35mil




The loans in the main will have had loan fees which is why Jack Harrison's £11mil fee is likely quite a bit larger.

Same goes for Izzy Brown type loans, wages and loan fees will have been involved.

We only reported £15mil for Costa but Wolves accounts showed an extra £6mil once we were promoted.

The unknowns mainly u23s all cost something but was never officially reported but some may have been over £1mil.

So it doesn't go to waste how about ranking them in terms of failure and success?

Everyone cost something even if the fee was free (Casilla for example had a few million of contract we had to buy out).

Jean Kevin-Augustin will have already likely cost us quite a bit as it was reported we paid a loan fee in the millions and were paying his significant wages

[Kennyb41]

[1964white]

I'm speechless

[Tighthead]

Whackadoddle.

[mentalcase]

62)Junior Firpo £16mil
Just been named in the worst team in the PL for this season.
Lukaku and rashford also in that team, I think Firpo is only one from the bottom half.

[William]

Well his recruitment got us PL and we survived.

Lets HATE him even more now.

[whiteswan]

Well his recruitment got us PL and we survived.

Lets HATE him even more now.

I think its fair to say (judging on what Cjay has just posted) he's wasted a lot of the clubs money William. I don't HATE him, I just think he could have done a better job of recruitment judging by some of those signings.

Survived being the operative word there....and only just

[SnifferClarke]

Costa, Rodrigo ,Firpo, James = 89 million

Maguire (also in the worst team) = 80 million

Lukaku 97.5 million

It's all relative! plus I am prepared to give James another season.

[Jaydog]

Some good bits of business on there too though in fairness. Not sure what his ratio is on the s**t:good:brilliant scale.

[Overman]

Well his recruitment got us PL and we survived.

Lets HATE him even more now.

That was down to the manager working miracles with the few tools that he had. That ain't on Orta, any other manager would have been incapable of acheiving promotion with that squad.

[1964white]

Whackadoddle.

Welcome to MOT, Tighthead

[SG90]

I'll cut him a bit of slack

Josko Gvaridol
Rodrigo De Paul
Noa Lang
Jonathan David
Matheus Cunha
Arthur Cabral

all players we've been linked with since promotion. Admittedly we didn't sign any, but we were scouting talented players. For one reason or another we didn't sign them.

[Cjay]

Successful

Pontus Jansson (already here before Orta)
Gianni Alioski
Mateusz Klich (on clubs radar before Orta)
Pascal Struijk
Patrick Bamford
Jack Harrison
Illan Meslier
Ben White
Raphinha
Joe Gelhardt
Jack Harrison

Failures.
Samu Saiz
Pawel Cibicki
Jay Roy Grot
Yosuke Ideguchi
Caleb Ekuban
Felix Wieldwald
Vurnon Anita
Quasim Bouy
Andy Lonergan
Magder Gomes
Sam Dalby
Jordan Stevens
Cameron Borthwick-Jackson
Pierre Michel-Lasogga
Mathew Pennington
Kamil Miazek
Hugo Diaz
Adrian Balboa
Oriol Rey
Qusama Siddiki
Oliver Sarkic
Tyler Roberts
Adam Forshaw
Bryce Hosannah
Kun Temenuzhkov.
Barry Douglas
Kiko Casilla
Lewis Baker
Izzy Brown
Jamal Blackman
Rafa Mujica
Guille Amor
Helder Costa
Jean Kevin-Augustin
Eddie Nketiah
Rodrigo
Diego Llorente
Dan James
Junior Firpo


Neither success nor failure.
Aapo Halme
Mateusz Bogusz
Leif Davis
Ian Poveda
Elia Caprille.
Liam McCarron
Robin Koch
Sam Greenwood
Cody Drameh
Dani Van Den Huevel
Crysencio Summerville
Kristoffer Klaesson
Lewis Bate
Leo Hjelde
Sean McGurk
Mateo Fernandez
Amari Miller

So players who were good value for money and made meaningful contributions are the successful ones.

The Failures are the ones we overpaid on or got poor value for or low contributions.

The either or are the ones who were meh Neither awful or great but maybe still have time to redeem themselves either way.

Has to be said 9 successful signings Orta is responsible for isn't a great record.

More worryingly though is the amount of big money signings we got poor value for.

[1964white]

62)Junior Firpo £16mil
Just been named in the worst team in the PL for this season.
Lukaku and rashford also in that team, I think Firpo is only one from the bottom half.

Which site is that on, Mental?

I've just found a worst XI that includes Koch & Struijk

[SG90]

We can't blame Orta for Dan James, he wanted Noa Lang instead

[Jaydog]

Dan James should go in the bottom group ATM. Not given up on him at all

[Tighthead]

Welcome to MOT, Tighthead

Thank you 1965white, I was on a couple of years ago, did boyspank, it was on TOMA 346 at the time, lost the will to live and my login details

Interesting times though.

[Jaydog]

Stupid question most likely but i'm not up on all these forums. Is the WACCOE place a bad one?

[William]

So is the premise of the OP that Leeds are in the best footballing and financial position in 20 years despite Orta instead of because of?

Look around football and money is being burned everywhere. Better do that than give it to the players via wages

Wilko that with transfers it is 50/50 if they are going to be a success or not. Flip of a coin.

Its Football.

A lot on that list were players who were brought in with minimum investment, then handed to some clueless coaches who were unable to do much with them.

It is the algorithm game. Buy em cheap after looking at their metrics and hope to knock em out for a profit.


Where we are poor is the selling on aspect I reckon.

Think of little Brentford. Their current squad has THIRTY NINE

If they can sell a few for seven figures happy days, but most go by the wayside.

[mentalcase]

Which site is that on, Mental?

I've just found a worst XI that includes Koch & Struijk

It's actually Ian Darkes, I know, not official, I know a lot will say "what does ID know, another shitty pundit ect" but, firpo is in it, he would also be in mine.