Who is the best manager in the championship?

[Sean_Nile]

No it wasn't true.

But please see my above post.

If you apply the very same criteria and allowances Daniel Farke was allowed in his first season where many yourself included said he'd done the greatest job possible under the circumstances yes?

Parker had identical circumstances (and you could argue worse as he lost more players) and managed to match us for points.

So how has he not done better if you apply the very very same criteria DF had in his first season?

I will get the Farke bashing stuff but actually all I'm doing is asking for consistency in evaluation?

I'm no Parker fan either tbh but I don't see how if evaluated fairly and unbiased then he can't be said to have done as well if not better than DF.

Yes but No but Parker had his cardigans and his designer outfits with recognisable logos on them and above that a decent recognisable haircut.

What did Farke have greasy hair and a no brand top from Burtons, trainers that could have come from Albania.

In the fashion stakes Parker had him beaten hands down, but did it help him, not one bit. He still lost the championship title any way you cut it.

[weasel]

But that's not relevant?

Points are points.

How they are achieved is irrelevant.

If we survive next season by having 20% possession every week does that mean Farke has done a worse job?

Yet you constantly griped that Farke played boring possession football. Seems things are only relevant when you can use them things to have a go at the top man. You are not fit to lick the p*ss off the cat on Daniel Farke's hot tin roof.

[weasel]

But last season DF was hailed as some sort of messiah for finishing 3rd because he had a "difficult summer".

Parker had a "difficult summer" basically identical if not worse circumstances.

So surely that means he did an even more incredible job?

Otherwise it's moving the goalposts.

9 of the first matchday squad left after matchday 1, Parker arrived even later than DF did here.

So surely based on the very criteria DF got so much credit for Parker has done an exceptional job?

How can Farke be given so much defending and credit and the same criteria not be used for a different manager?

Ah there we go back to Cjay's 'lets invent stuff that nobody actually said.' No one hailed Farke as a Messiah for finishing third but plenty were of the opinion that he'd done a reasonably decent job given the circumstances of the summer. Burnely may have had a lot of upheavel but were left with the bulk of a team that had actually won the championship the year before their relegation. We did have some of our championship winning side still left but Ayling & Cooper were past it and Dallas and Bamford were injured. Parker did a cracking job, I'd personally give him a lot of praise however he finished second.

[weasel]

I'm no Parker fan either tbh but I don't see how if evaluated fairly and unbiased then he can't be said to have done as well if not better than DF.

You're no Farke fan either. You are sad and bitter becuase Farke got us promoted whereas you;d have rather we didn't get promoted and you could have said 'You told us so.'

Are you even a Leeds fan?

[Cjay]

Yet you constantly griped that Farke played boring possession football. Seems things are only relevant when you can use them things to have a go at the top man. You are not fit to lick the p*ss off the cat on Daniel Farke's hot tin roof.

1st of all that's vile

2nd of all it wasn't just me who said it wasn't exactly a thrill of a watch, let's not pretend it was.

Were moments of good enjoyable football but also a lot of dull as many many agreed at the time (of course some like to pretend they never said it now I'm sure).

Finally that's vile . . . Needs reinforcing

[Cjay]

You're no Farke fan either. You are sad and bitter becuase Farke got us promoted whereas you;d have rather we didn't get promoted and you could have said 'You told us so.'

Are you even a Leeds fan?

Oh f**k off with that

[Cjay]

Ah there we go back to Cjay's 'lets invent stuff that nobody actually said.' No one hailed Farke as a Messiah for finishing third but plenty were of the opinion that he'd done a reasonably decent job given the circumstances of the summer. Burnely may have had a lot of upheavel but were left with the bulk of a team that had actually won the championship the year before their relegation. We did have some of our championship winning side still left but Ayling & Cooper were past it and Dallas and Bamford were injured. Parker did a cracking job, I'd personally give him a lot of praise however he finished second.

Go back and check, he got huge praise for his 3rd place finish and didn't he do amazingly.

I realise you like to pretend I make things up but you know that I check and remember . . . .

Burnley had precisely 3 regulars from the promotion season.

Those others barely played like Egan Riley and Foster.

People like Rodriguez left in January.

And frankly if DF can have the fact he had a huge budget in both his seasons ignored as you've said it should be then don't think can use the few players already promoted one at Parker.

So I ask again with exactly the same if not worse upheavel and not as you claimed with the bulk of an already promotion winning squad doesn't Parker deserve atleast an equal score as Farke if not more?

I realise you have a massive lob on for Farke but please try to be unbiased for a change.

[hector]

Oh f**k off with that

That's a maybe then.....

[Cjay]

That's a maybe then.....

Absolutely

I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of some sort of long term plan

[Cjay]

This thread is all completely irrelevant anyway . . . .

It's clear now the answer to the original question was Carlos Corberan.

Took a bottom of the table Valencia to 11th with only 1 loan signing.

They'd be 8th based on seasonal ppg.

So the answer isn't Farke or Parker or Carrick or Wilder.

It's Corberan whose done this rescue act with a crisis club and 0 money 3 times now.

[1964white]

So the answer isn't Farke or Parker or Carrick or Wilder.

It's Corberan whose done this rescue act with a crisis club and 0 money 3 times now.

[CUSSIE01]

Not at all Cussie.

This thread has been running all season and so it's now time to reflect on how all the teams managers have done. For me personally there have been some good performances such as Lampard at Coventry or Manning at Bristol City. We also wait to see if Wilder or Le Bris deserve extra credit for successfully negotiating the play offs which is perhaps an underrated skill.

However Top Dog is Farke no doubt about that.

I backed DF & the team from the start of the season Jammy. Oogleman & me were the only 2 to predict 19 points from the final 7 games and I was lumped in with the Happy Clappers plenty of times so agree 100% that Farke was top of the pile this season in more ways than one. Anyone voting for anyone else after the season we had is just deliberately stirring the pot imo.

[weasel]

1st of all that's vile

2nd of all it wasn't just me who said it wasn't exactly a thrill of a watch, let's not pretend it was.

Were moments of good enjoyable football but also a lot of dull as many many agreed at the time (of course some like to pretend they never said it now I'm sure).

Finally that's vile . . . Needs reinforcing

Yes but apparently according to you, Cjay, it is fine for Parker to bore fans to death if it gets results but not for Farke to do it.

[weasel]

Oh f**k off with that

AH there we go because it is the truth, you'd have rather been right about Farke than see us getting promoted, you resort to childish insults.
I bet you can't wait for us to struggle next year.

[weasel]

Go back and check, he got huge praise for his 3rd place finish and didn't he do amazingly.

I realise you like to pretend I make things up but you know that I check and remember . . . .

Burnley had precisely 3 regulars from the promotion season.

Those others barely played like Egan Riley and Foster.

People like Rodriguez left in January.

And frankly if DF can have the fact he had a huge budget in both his seasons ignored as you've said it should be then don't think can use the few players already promoted one at Parker.

So I ask again with exactly the same if not worse upheavel and not as you claimed with the bulk of an already promotion winning squad doesn't Parker deserve atleast an equal score as Farke if not more?

I realise you have a massive lob on for Farke but please try to be unbiased for a change.

Big difference between giving someone praise for doing a decent job and hailing him as the messiah. Your hyperbole is so ridiculous a dog wearing a clown costume would wave an imaginary red card at you.

[weasel]

Go back and check, he got huge praise for his 3rd place finish and didn't he do amazingly.

I realise you like to pretend I make things up but you know that I check and remember . . . .

Burnley had precisely 3 regulars from the promotion season.

Those others barely played like Egan Riley and Foster.

People like Rodriguez left in January.

And frankly if DF can have the fact he had a huge budget in both his seasons ignored as you've said it should be then don't think can use the few players already promoted one at Parker.

So I ask again with exactly the same if not worse upheavel and not as you claimed with the bulk of an already promotion winning squad doesn't Parker deserve atleast an equal score as Farke if not more?

I realise you have a massive lob on for Farke but please try to be unbiased for a change.

Whoa you leave my massive appendage out of your fantasies.

[GreennWhite]

Most fans who support the team actually get some enjoyment from it.

I know this was asked of him before and he refused to answer it then, so will ask again. Cjay we won the league and got promoted, Did you enjoy being a Leeds fan this season ??

[weasel]

Absolutely

I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of some sort of long term plan

At last (s)he admits it.

[Irish Ian]

Ah there we go back to Cjay's 'lets invent stuff that nobody actually said.' No one hailed Farke as a Messiah for finishing third but plenty were of the opinion that he'd done a reasonably decent job given the circumstances of the summer. Burnely may have had a lot of upheavel but were left with the bulk of a team that had actually won the championship the year before their relegation. We did have some of our championship winning side still left but Ayling & Cooper were past it and Dallas and Bamford were injured. Parker did a cracking job, I'd personally give him a lot of praise however he finished second.

Burnely also are a seasoned yoyo club now with a good idea of how to reboot quicky ( same as Sheff Utd) their whole approach to each season is built around this reality.

As a result Scotty P will not get the financial backing that he probably deserves next season as the Burnely ownership has not the desire to do so..

So what is that to do with us, only this, that Farke has been tasked with building a squad with longevity in mind and what makes him the stronger manager is that he has been able to build a team that is half PL ready. Burnely have relied on loan players so in a sense Parker will have to reboot this summer, while we are in a far better position to kick on.

[weasel]

This thread is all completely irrelevant anyway . . . .

It's clear now the answer to the original question was Carlos Corberan.

Took a bottom of the table Valencia to 11th with only 1 loan signing.

They'd be 8th based on seasonal ppg.

So the answer isn't Farke or Parker or Carrick or Wilder.

It's Corberan whose done this rescue act with a crisis club and 0 money 3 times now.

And you had the bare arsed cheek to say Farke's football was boring. The 49ers wouldn't be needing to build a new stadium if Corberan was in charge they could just just tur a bar stool upside down and still have 2 seats avaialble.