The "January" Transfer Window 20/21 season

[SG90]

Is Benrahma, is Wilson?

The only player who seems to be a certain Bielsa player is Almada given he has worked only ever with Bielsa disciples but we arent going for him sadly.

I like Eze a lot, better then Wilson and Benrahma imo.

Still wish we would end our domestic obsession and just go for Almada

Me too. You just know someone else will buy him and he'll end up being well out of our league, like Haaland.

[Cjay]

Im still waiting for the downturn in prices caused by Covid 19 . . . . . Thought it was going to be a buyers market.

Nathan Ake cost £40mil. . . .Lewis Dunk, Brighton want £40-50mil, we just had a £22mil bid rejected for a 2nd division cb!!!!!

Man City signed a very highly rated Spanish winger for £20mil, only 20 but has over 50 La Liga games to his name, Champions league experience and Europa League.

Meanwhile we are wondering whether to spend upwards of 20mil on 2nd division players!!!!!

I dont get the domestic obsession, i dont agree with the argument that its better to sign domestic players, a good player is a good player and it doesnt matter where he played before. Many domestic players have failed to make the step up to Prem level, many foreign ones to, its not an exact science

I find our willingness to overpay on domestic players daft and not using Bielsa contacts in Argentina to find gems so frustrating. Wolves only signed foreign players, they seem to do alright.

i really hoped we would change our domestic obsession ( i know the window has only just opened but its pretty clear we will only go foreign if we cant find anything in England)


Sorry for the rant i feel better now

[SG90]

Im still waiting for the downturn in prices caused by Covid 19 . . . . . Thought it was going to be a buyers market.

Nathan Ake cost £40mil. . . .Lewis Dunk, Brighton want £40-50mil, we just had a £22mil bid rejected for a 2nd division cb!!!!!

Man City signed a very highly rated Spanish winger for £20mil, only 20 but has over 50 La Liga games to his name, Champions league experience and Europa League.

Meanwhile we are wondering whether to spend upwards of 20mil on 2nd division players!!!!!

I dont get the domestic obsession, i dont agree with the argument that its better to sign domestic players, a good player is a good player and it doesnt matter where he played before. Many domestic players have failed to make the step up to Prem level, many foreign ones to, its not an exact science

I find our willingness to overpay on domestic players daft and not using Bielsa contacts in Argentina to find gems so frustrating. Wolves only signed foreign players, they seem to do alright.

i really hoped we would change our domestic obsession ( i know the window has only just opened but its pretty clear we will only go foreign if we cant find anything in England)


Sorry for the rant i feel better now

Completely agree. The domestic market is a complete rip off and certainly not value for money. If foreign players are so rubbish, why are the best players in the PL foreign? Bring through our own domestic players and save millions.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Im still waiting for the downturn in prices caused by Covid 19 . . . . . Thought it was going to be a buyers market.

It looks like a lot of clubs are going to have to start slashing their wage bills. That should benefit the clubs that are on the rise (those that got promoted). Plus L1 and L2 have the salary cap to consider now.

[The Subhuman]

You don't think if Bielsa had contacts we could use we wouldn't be using them?

[Cjay]

You don't think if Bielsa had contacts we could use we wouldn't be using them?

We know that we have scouted abroad, Orta is abroad right now.

But Orta is focused on domestic, he has been since his 1st season c**k up.

[Carrick Dave]

I agree that £22m for a Championship CB is outrageous, but if we need to go to £25 to secure White it’s better than paying £15m for someone who ultimately fails to cut it. I personally think Bielsa will spot another relatively unknown diamond like White at a bargain price, and that’s who we’ll end up with.

Bearing in mind we also need an Enganche player to understudy Pablo and a striker, I hope he has a long list of quality bargains lined up, given our mooted budget.

[SG90]

I agree that £22m for a Championship CB is outrageous, but if we need to go to £25 to secure White it’s better than paying £15m for someone who ultimately fails to cut it. I personally think Bielsa will spot another relatively unknown diamond like White at a bargain price, and that’s who we’ll end up with.

Bearing in mind we also need an Enganche player to understudy Pablo and a striker, I hope he has a long list of quality bargains lined up, given our mooted budget.

That's why Taylor Harwood-Bellis is the back up option.

If we spend £25-30m on White, that's almost all of the budget gone already and we still need a striker and a playmaker.

Martinez Quarta £11m, Thiago Almada £16m, Nico Gonzalez £15m works out better than spending big on one player.

[SG90]

Imo the way to approach it is the Leipzig/Dortmund way. But young gems to develop and sell off for 3x what we paid. Not overspending on Championship players.

[weasel]

Imo the way to approach it is the Leipzig/Dortmund way. But young gems to develop and sell off for 3x what we paid. Not overspending on Championship players.

It is a great way buy only if you get it right. Easy to spend decent money on a youngster and then they never fulfill their potential. Pawel Cibiscki was looked at by lots of big clubs, Milan, Juventus etc but where is he at now? Dortmund have got it right in recent years but they won't look so clever if Jude Bellingham flops after they paid £25m for him.

[SG90]

It is a great way buy only if you get it right. Easy to spend decent money on a youngster and then they never fulfill their potential. Pawel Cibiscki was looked at by lots of big clubs, Milan, Juventus etc but where is he at now? Dortmund have got it right in recent years but they won't look so clever if Jude Bellingham flops after they paid £25m for him.

True, but I was thinking more wonder kid types like Almada, Harwood-Bellis etc, rather than £1m players on tiny wages. Also Cibicki and the like were coached by Heckaday, who would turn Messi into a pub player. Had they had the benefit of Bielsa, they'd have turned out a lot better.

[Cjay]

That's why Taylor Harwood-Bellis is the back up option.

If we spend £25-30m on White, that's almost all of the budget gone already and we still need a striker and a playmaker.

Martinez Quarta £11m, Thiago Almada £16m, Nico Gonzalez £15m works out better than spending big on one player.

Chuck Foyth in for £10-12mil and you still only end up paying £50-55mil.

What makes Ben White worth twice as much as Foyth?

It beggars belief that we arent being smarter.

[Cjay]

Thiago Almada has tested positive for Coronavirus apparently.

Hope he gets well soon.

[Aussieleeds]

This would be sad for us and White.

"...But the Blues could well scupper those plans, with Frank Lampard’s side planning to hijack Liverpool’s move for the 22-year-old according to the Daily Star.

Brighton are thought to have slapped a £40million price tag on White, with Liverpool poised to make an opening bid of £20million, and Chelsea are prepared to better anything that’s put on the table."

[Fridge]

Martinez Quarta £11m, Thiago Almada £16m, Nico Gonzalez £15m works out better than spending big on one player.

All great in theory, until Quarta ends up being £15m, Almada £25m and Gonzalez £20m

[White Riot]

I'm still holding out some hope that we might get Ben White back.

Surely he knows he's gonna be much less respected or involved at a club like LFC or Chelsea? But they have the money to eliminate us from a bidding war.

Another hope is that the top PL clubs have expectations to sign known and proven international/elite level players. Ben White did have a great season for us, but he's not an established top level player yet.

I believe he would definitely become that type of player under Bielsa, and elsewhere he may need to just stagnate while he's waiting for an opportunity to start. Which is also bad for his motivation and aspirations.

I fully expect Brighton will sell him this summer, or they must play him to develop him and increase his value. With the players Brighton have brought in and their need for goals, they need to sell and will just want as much as they can get.

After such a thrilling season for White how will he feel if he's sat on the bench at Brighton watching inferior players struggle again to stay up against similar level teams like Villa, WBA, Fulham, Newcastle, Palace.

Does he want that, or does he want to embrace an amazing potentially career defining opportunity at LUFC?

Orta and the players should be constantly in his ear

[rab_rant]

The Leeds boss was snapped with a fan in Costa coffee with several pieces of paper, which appear to show scouting reports on Ole Becker.

Fans have also claimed that Reading's Michael Olise profile was also on the sheets of paper.

Oh no not another alert like the folder on his power point display

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[rab_rant]

Finn Ole Becker

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finn_Ole_Becker

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[rab_rant]

Chelsea man city reading pedigree.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Olise

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[Byebyegeegee]

I'm still holding out some hope that we might get Ben White back.

Surely he knows he's gonna be much less respected or involved at a club like LFC or Chelsea? But they have the money to eliminate us from a bidding war.

Another hope is that the top PL clubs have expectations to sign known and proven international/elite level players. Ben White did have a great season for us, but he's not an established top level player yet.

I believe he would definitely become that type of player under Bielsa, and elsewhere he may need to just stagnate while he's waiting for an opportunity to start. Which is also bad for his motivation and aspirations.

I fully expect Brighton will sell him this summer, or they must play him to develop him and increase his value. With the players Brighton have brought in and their need for goals, they need to sell and will just want as much as they
can get.

After such a thrilling season for White how will he feel if he's sat on the bench at Brighton watching inferior players struggle again to stay up against similar level teams like Villa, WBA, Fulham, Newcastle, Palace.

Does he want that, or does he want to embrace an amazing potentially career defining opportunity at LUFC?

Orta and the players should be constantly in his ear

I’m not sure how these things work.

If Liverpool or Chelsea came in with an offer of £40m for White, where he thinks he would probably not get much actual game time, so he refuses to sign because he wants to come to Elland Road, where obviously he would be a regular starter, but we have only offered £22m. Can he force the move even though Brighton would potentially be losing £18m? If Brighton dug their heels in and wouldn’t sell him to Leeds on principle then they would be losing £22m. How would this situation get resolved?