The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 27th May) - Aaronson pens five year deal

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning. It's Friday 27th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Aaronson pens five year deal

Brenden Aaronson put pen to paper yesterday, as Leeds unveiled their first (in a long line) of Summer signings. The 21 year old USA International signed a five-year deal, running until the summer of 2027. Although the transfer will not be officially completed until July 1, Aaronson was keen to get the deal completed before jetting off on International duty. Aaronson, dubbed the Medway Messi prefers to play as an attacking midfielder, a void that Leeds have found difficult to fill in recent times. Will his arrival spell the end for Mateuz Klich?





Raphinha should stay until after the World Cup

Speaking on the One Leeds Fan Channel, Conor McGilligan believes Leeds should play hard ball with Barcelona over Raphinha this Summer. The Catalan giants have not hidden their desire to try and steal him away from Elland Road, and have conspired with Deco (Raphinha's agent) to try and force the move. Media sources have suggested that Leeds have already turned down their first bid of €55m (£46.8m), but McGilligan believes that following the jubilant scenes at Brentford last weekend, the Brazilian ace would be happy to stay at Elland Road until next January, after the World Cup.

You look at the current market right now, £40m is nothing and we should not be buckling for Barcelona because Barcelona cannot afford. I get the feeling with Raphinha that he’d be ok to play until January, and then maybe Barcelona can stump the funds up. But Leeds need to be in a position where we’re strong next season. We don’t want to be mucked around by Barcelona for this entire window.

I understand that the club will be selling him, but we do hold all the cards to maximise this guy’s value. We should not be lowering this guy’s value to anything below £70m, in my opinion – £65m to a stretch, and I’d be disappointed with £65m.

Cresswell and Hjelde to be sent out on loan next season

Graham Symth has suggested that Leo Hjelde and Charlie Cresswell may need to be sent out on loan next season in their quest for first team football. The Chief Football Writer for the Yorkshire Evening Post admitted that whilst the young duo could have big futures in front of them, their experience in the top flight is lacking (297 minutes between them).

Symth boasts that 'Centre-backs are the one and only thing that Jesse Marsch and Victor Orta need not worry about', yet the statistics tell a different story! Leeds conceded 79 goals last season; only Norwich (84), conceded more. Furthermore, Meslier was the busiest keeper in the Top Flight, making an average of 3.8 saves per game. If that doesn't set the alarm bells ringing, I don't know what will!

Cresswell is not only dominant in the air, a quality sadly lacking in the entire Leeds squad, but his communication on the pitch, and reading of the game is exemplary. Surely he needs to be a regular in the first team next season!

[Ratscoot]

Morning EB et all

If we can keep Raph until Jan and get more money for him then I'd be happy with that especially if he plays his heart out and by the time he leaves we are at least mid table but if he goes this summer it's got to be for top dollar and we don't want any more Barc rejects as part of the deal or wait a minute here's a thought Raph goes for £70m or if they take Firpo back as well it's a bargain £65m.

Aaronson looks good on Youtube and his stats are very good but in a not so great league but you ca only play what's in front of you and again with better players around him to help, hopefully he smashes it next season - really excited to see him in and a Leeds shirt. It could be the end of Klich I for one would love him to stay as part of the squad because how many times have we looked at our bench and thought there's no experience or game changers sat there and Klich coming on could raise the crowd and the team.

I'd also like to say glad we got this business over the line early and hope we do the same with the rest of our signings, it would make a nice change to go into pre-season with the whole squad together.

Lets keep our U23s at the club this season but not just for sitting on the bench, if they aren't going to get first team game time play them in the U23s

[1964white]

Keeping Raphinha would help us to a healthy position in the PL next season & we would benefit financially, selling him after the World Cup in the summer of 2023.

[mentalcase]

Morning all.
As has been said more than enough times, we are firmly in the driving seat, if I cannot pay for the goods when I go shopping, I get fucked off, same rules apply to a hard up spanish outfit, tha can't get it on the tick, lets play proper hard ball, everytime they make a weak offer below £75 million, the fee rises by £5million, same goes for KP and any of his suitors.

Glad we got the BA deal done early, leaves time to spend on others we so badly need, hope BA can cope with the English weather, he'll soon toughen up on the pitch as well.

Cresswell and Hjelde should both be at ER next season imho, both just need the run of games to prove themselves, pre-season is what those thing are for, then put them in, they shouldn't be going out on loan, cooper is ageing, Llorente and Koch have something to prove and will both be paid significantly more money.

Investing in the correct areas is key for us this time around, very crucial, hope they finally get things right.

[Jaydog]

You got it MC, mess with their heads over Raph. They've been doing it to us for long enough.
And Cresswell & Hjelde out on loan, wtf, why don’t we send our “back up” striker with them too.

[lufc1304]

Hard ball for Raph, either now or in January. No bending over simply because it's Barca. January maybe best of both worlds, we get half a season from our star man, he has a good WC and then we sell him at a premium. Broken record, but we hold all the cards.

Nice to see early business done, hopefully BA hits the ground running. If he is a Klich type, I hope Mateus stays as a squad player. Still got something to offer for us, just not as a nailed on starter.

Leo and Charlie should not go out on loan, imo. There's a question mark against all those ahead of them, let them stay and battle for places. Cresswell, especially, looks to have a very bright future and I think he's ready now.

[Ratscoot]

As has been said more than enough times, we are firmly in the driving seat, if I cannot pay for the goods when I go shopping, I get fucked off, same rules apply to a hard up spanish outfit, tha can't get it on the tick, lets play proper hard ball, everytime they make a weak offer below £75 million, the fee rises by £5million, same goes for KP and any of his suitors.

Agree MC my only worry is that Orta is like a giddy school girl going to see her favourite boy band when he goes to see the big European clubs and they know it so they have his pants down before the encore

[The Subhuman]

Agree MC my only worry is that Orta is like a giddy school girl going to see her favourite boy band when he goes to see the big European clubs and they know it so they have his pants down before the encore

Racking my brain to remember who the last Leeds player Orta sold to Barcelona….or any major European club for that matter

[Mick Jones shoulder]

He bought Firpo though!!!!!

[Chilli D]

As the squad stands right now we have a glut of CB's but we don't what the situation be come the start of the season. Llorente and Koch might decide they want to return to their respective countries.
No way that Cresswell or Hjelde should be sent out on loan. They've both proved more than capable when they've played and Hjelde did well at LB when he played there which is where I think he played for Celtic?
They only thing they lack over the others is experience. Pre season will give them the chance to stake their claim and I feel that if JM thinks they are better than others, he will play them.

[Leeds1000]

Aaronson pens five year deal.

Didn't realise the kid was only 21. Are we sure he's not for the under 23's...... I have looked into my crystal ball and i can see another Dan James headless chicken running around....

Raphinha should stay until after the World Cup.

I just hope there hasn't been some sort of handshake behind the scenes with AR. I couldn't begin to tell you what the value of one of the hottest new properties in Brazilian football is worth? All i know is Barca are reportedly skint. We need someone else to join the race to sign him.

Cresswell and Hjelde to be sent out on loan next season.

Although i really like the look of these two young players they would benefit from some ftf this season.

[SG90]

I'd keep Cresswell and Hjelde, they're better than the senior options imo. Plus what happens if we get a million injuries again? No more Ayling at CB! I'd sell Llorente and promote Cresswell.

I agree we should keep Rapha until the WC. Barcelona are skint and probably won't pay us anyway. Plus who knows, if we have a good season, Raph might stick it out to the end.

[Jaydog]

We conceded 79 goals. And only awful Norwich were worse. I was looking back through the comments re our plethora of CB’s. Llorente, Koch, PS, Cooper have been heavily criticised on a regular basis. Not good enough for the PL according to some. Koch probably more so when played out of position. So I’m confused why Cresswell goes out on loan. And Hjelde looked comfortable when he played to me, but Firpo is better in that left back position. Eh! You’ve lost me. A bit like JG who wasn’t ready and too raw according to some.
Sometimes the answer is under your nose.

[Kennyb41]

I'm not sure if this has already been spoke about, we could have a bit of a dilemma here with our main assets Raph and KP.

If we keep hold of them and Jesse's a complete failure and we're bottom 3 then what, would it be sell them in January making the team worse and stare relegation in the face ? Has their value then plummeted ?

Or do we sell now ?

[William]

Symth boasts that 'Centre-backs are the one and only thing that Jesse Marsch and Victor Orta need not worry about', yet the statistics tell a different story! Leeds conceded 79 goals last season; only Norwich (84), conceded more. Furthermore, Meslier was the busiest keeper in the Top Flight, making an average of 3.8 saves per game. If that doesn't set the alarm bells ringing, I don't know what will!

So can someone point me to the connection between conceding lots of goals and not having enough CBs..

Do the stats tell us we didnt have enough last time?

Weird logic there..


And welcome Brenden Aaronsen.

A midfield recruit at last!!!
The reasons we conceded so many are well documented

Anyhow I like Charlie mainly because of his physical presence, but both those lads could do with minutes in the Championship next season

[SG90]

Symth boasts that 'Centre-backs are the one and only thing that Jesse Marsch and Victor Orta need not worry about', yet the statistics tell a different story! Leeds conceded 79 goals last season; only Norwich (84), conceded more. Furthermore, Meslier was the busiest keeper in the Top Flight, making an average of 3.8 saves per game. If that doesn't set the alarm bells ringing, I don't know what will!

So can someone point me to the connection between conceding lots of goals and not having enough CBs..

Do the stats tell us we didnt have enough last time?

Weird logic there..

Most of it was down to not having anything in midfield. Also we improved massively from set pieces under Marsch, so don't see it being a major problem next season.

[SG90]

I can see Calvin Ramsay being the next signing.

[BGwhite]

Hard ball for Raph, either now or in January. No bending over simply because it's Barca. January maybe best of both worlds, we get half a season from our star man, he has a good WC and then we sell him at a premium. Broken record, but we hold all the cards.

Nice to see early business done, hopefully BA hits the ground running. If he is a Klich type, I hope Mateus stays as a squad player. Still got something to offer for us, just not as a nailed on starter.

Leo and Charlie should not go out on loan, imo. There's a question mark against all those ahead of them, let them stay and battle for places. Cresswell, especially, looks to have a very bright future and I think he's ready now.

Spot on pal !!

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[whiteinfrance]

Yes I'd say Cresswell is good enough to play

One of the main reasons we conceded so many was that we didn't have a SETTLED cb partnership all season, with the disaster of Ayling having to play there

Would be interesting to see which pair played in each game

[Kennyb41]

Rebuild on, new formation, gash players, new manager, losing our best players, the clown rolling the dice out shopping,

H'mmm, I think we're on thin ice, it could go right, there's an awful lot could go wrong.