Covid

[Leeds1000]

A condensed version of the excellent vid Rab put up. There really is some harrowing testimonies out there. No wonder the COP26 lot get a free pass they are much more informed than us mere mortals. Critical thinking not required to decide who you think are lying and covering things up. No jab, no job, no money, no house, no prospects, either choice leads to the same conclusion for many.....no life .... Its the embodiment of evil imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkVN3KwDfvI

[1964white]

Look at the actual figures and trends:

https://andrewlilico.wordpress.com/2021 ... t-version/

Just mentioning covid is still rampant & the NHS are under horrendous pressure.

Our government needs to resolve the problems, though they seem incapable of getting anything right tbh.

[rab_rant]

We will not mandate vaccines

[john1931]

Absolutely no excuse for not getting vaccinated.....as Leeds say.....team before self.... unless medically exempt it's pure selfishness.....shame on them....lets call it out.....they are a stain in humanity!

[1964white]

You've done it now John

[The Subhuman]

Just mentioning covid is still rampant & the NHS are under horrendous pressure.

Our government needs to resolve the problems, though they seem incapable of getting anything right tbh.

Maybe they should get GP's to do some of the work, dunno about Yorkshire but surgeries down here are like graveyards as all GP's do is tell people to go to A&E, and I've heard doctors in our local hospital call GP's some very earthy names

[1964white]

Maybe they should get GP's to do some of the work, dunno about Yorkshire but surgeries down here are like graveyards as all GP's do is tell people to go to A&E, and I've heard doctors in our local hospital call GP's some very earthy names

Think its national mate, we have the same problem up here.....disgraceful !!!!!

[rab_rant]

Will the new Pfizer pill for Covid make vaccines obsolete

[liggy]

One of my sons and the brother in law have tested positive . ... have a massive spliff and play U2 exit

[1964white]

One of my sons and the brother in law have tested positive . ... have a massive spliff and play U2 exit

Excellent U2 song, liggy

Hope your son & bruv-in-law feel better soon.

[rab_rant]

Absolutely no excuse for not getting vaccinated.....as Leeds say.....team before self.... unless medically exempt it's pure selfishness.....shame on them....lets call it out.....they are a stain in humanity!

[WestgateRun]

Surely vaccines are the accepted method of dealing with an epidemic?
They have been used to great effect in the past against infectious diseases and to improve public health.
I don't think they should be discarded because of a few scare stories on social media.

[The Subhuman]

Surely vaccines are the accepted method of dealing with an epidemic?
They have been used to great effect in the past against infectious diseases and to improve public health.
I don't think they should be discarded because of a few scare stories on social media.

No one is saying they should, but it shouldn't be mandated.

[rab_rant]

Surely vaccines are the accepted method of dealing with an epidemic?
They have been used to great effect in the past against infectious diseases and to improve public health.
I don't think they should be discarded because of a few scare stories on social media.

Sorry to say but the state injectable is not a vaccine it's mRNA technology or gene therapy.
Previous vaccines have been attenuated viruses. I have mark on my arm, a scar of where I was vaccinated as a child. The polio vaccine I had on a lump of sugar.

The Covid gene therapy is a small piece of Mrna contained within a lipid membrane for protection, and your own genetic machinery uses the Mrna to produce the spike protein,which the body makes antibodies against.

This technology has never been used before, and was only granted Emergency use by the FDA. The results of the clinical trials will only be finalised in 2023.

Facts that everyone seems to ignore, are ignorant of, or conveniently forget.

[WestgateRun]

Sorry to say but the state injectable is not a vaccine it's mRNA technology or gene therapy.
Previous vaccines have been attenuated viruses. I have mark on my arm, a scar of where I was vaccinated as a child. The polio vaccine I had on a lump of sugar.

The Covid gene therapy is a small piece of Mrna contained within a lipid membrane for protection, and your own genetic machinery uses the Mrna to produce the spike protein,which the body makes antibodies against.

This technology has never been used before, and was only granted Emergency use by the FDA. The results of the clinical trials will only be finalised in 2023.

Facts that everyone seems to ignore, are ignorant of, or conveniently forget.

Astra Zeneca is not mRNA, as far as I understand.
Yes, they have all had shortened trials. But it was/is a worldwide emergency.

[rab_rant]

Astra Zeneca is not mRNA, as far as I understand.
Yes, they have all had shortened trials. But it was/is a worldwide emergency.

Would that be the Astra Zeneca that has been suspended in Sweden, Germany, France and in 15 other different countries in Europe?

[BobHirst]

This thread gets more pointless by the day.
Rab, Sara etc, you are not changing any ones mind with your posts.
The people on the other side are not changing Rab's, Sara's etc minds with their posts from other sources.

Rab, Sara etc, apparently do not believe official statistics, the government and main stream scientists and doctors.
The people on the other side generally believe these sources and are sceptical of social media facts and figures and internet experts.
(I know, probably over simplified).

Moderators.... I would vote to close this thread with the understanding that the 2 sides disagree with one another and that's not going to change.

What about anyone else. Should we leave this open or close it?

[VoiceofaLurker]

I asked the same question a month or so ago so I'm in.

VOAL

This thread gets more pointless by the day.
Rab, Sara etc, you are not changing any ones mind with your posts.
The people on the other side are not changing Rab's, Sara's etc minds with their posts from other sources.

Rab, Sara etc, apparently do not believe official statistics, the government and main stream scientists and doctors.
The people on the other side generally believe these sources and are sceptical of social media facts and figures and internet experts.
(I know, probably over simplified).

Moderators.... I would vote to close this thread with the understanding that the 2 sides disagree with one another and that's not going to change.

What about anyone else. Should we leave this open or close it?

[whiteroseboy]

Would that be the Astra Zeneca that has been suspended in Sweden, Germany, France and in 15 other different countries in Europe?
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Was that the suspension in March that was lifted a few days later after concerns were proved poppycock.

Agree with Bob Hirst this thread should be locked to stop this misleading news.

https://amp-dw-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v ... a-56922088

[The Subhuman]

This thread gets more pointless by the day.
Rab, Sara etc, you are not changing any ones mind with your posts.
The people on the other side are not changing Rab's, Sara's etc minds with their posts from other sources.

Rab, Sara etc, apparently do not believe official statistics, the government and main stream scientists and doctors.
The people on the other side generally believe these sources and are sceptical of social media facts and figures and internet experts.
(I know, probably over simplified).

Moderators.... I would vote to close this thread with the understanding that the 2 sides disagree with one another and that's not going to change.

What about anyone else. Should we leave this open or close it?

Leave it open... I like Rab's and Sara's common sense over the rests paranoia