Arsenal v Leeds Match Thread - Four changes as Phillips returns and Drameh makes debut

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Carabao Cup, 4th Round
26/10/2021
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Won
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Drawn
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Lost
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67
Played
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Won
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Drawn
37
Lost
-61
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14/02/2021 Emirates Stadium 4–2 L Premier League ↗
22/11/2020 Elland Road 0–0 D Premier League ↗
06/01/2020 Emirates Stadium 1–0 L FA Cup 3rd Round ↗
09/01/2012 Emirates Stadium 1–0 L FA Cup 3rd Round ↗
19/01/2011 Elland Road 1–3 L FA Cup 3rd Round Replay ↗
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2 Tom Jennings 8
3 Lee Chapman 7
4 Allan Clarke 6
5 Johnny Giles 5
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Def Llorente
Def Struijk
Def Dallas ©
Mid Phillips
Mid Forshaw
Mid Harrison
For Roberts
Mid James
For Moreno
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:12 pm So you'd swap James for Costa?
Hmm that's a really hard question atm because for all Costa was pretty shocking last season their is no question that Costa statistically provided more of a threat.

He created a chance more regularly (144Mins)

He scored a goal more regularly (386mins).

No getting away from the fact Dan James record offensively for a £25mil winger is awful and indefensible atm.

Costa was universally agreed to be ineffective last season yes? So far this season James is less of a threat.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:08 pm They were tbf as a unit atleast (not to say either were particularly awesome individuals).

No way was Cooper for Llorente planned, the reaction from Llorente showed that.
It was definitely game over as soon as that change was made, Llorente was holding us together at the back

Gooners must have been licking their lips when they realised our best defender was going off.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:08 pm
This highlights it.

When your footballing brain picks the player to your left you know you have an issue as a creative force.
I mentioned our wrong options at half-time, James definitely should have played the ball to his right.

A decent midfielder would be making the right pass.
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1964white wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:32 pm I mentioned our wrong options at half-time, James definitely should have played the ball to his right.

A decent midfielder would be making the right pass.
Exactly

That picture sums James up

Head down and run, tunnel vision.

So far unfortunately he has done nothing to dispel the theory that he is a sprinter who MB got obsessed with because he runs around a lot.
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1964white wrote: I mentioned our wrong options at half-time, James definitely should have played the ball to his right.

A decent midfielder would be making the right pass.
Any footballer with a brain would've made that pass...mmm think I've just touched on another subject there.

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Did all those who say James only runs and doesn't create chances completely miss the Euros?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blamef ... o-2020/amp

I think this site reached peak hyperbole with a posyer suggesting that Bielsa would benefit from reading posts here... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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1964white wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:32 pm I mentioned our wrong options at half-time, James definitely should have played the ball to his right.

A decent midfielder would be making the right pass.
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Why not start with Gelhardt ?
To me Rodrigo isn't the centre forward we need, his stats prove that, Joff up front, Rodders in midfield and Roberts on the bench.........a park bench on clapham common preferably.
Taking Llorente off was baffling like.
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Forshaw and Roberts played OK in the first half
If we play more than 2 u23, the team looks completely lost. Maybe that's why klich plays everything when he is unfit.
Good first half, awful second one.
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Mountain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:37 pm Did all those who say James only runs and doesn't create chances completely miss the Euros?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blamef ... o-2020/amp

I think this site reached peak hyperbole with a posyer suggesting that Bielsa would benefit from reading posts here... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Decent Euros but he is unproven at Premier league level.

His record for us is poor and indefensible and his record for Manure creatively wasn't great.

Premier league record of 1 chance created per 93 minutes.

His record for Manure was about 1 every 87minutes in the league.

The fact is for a Premier league winger that played the majority of his Premier league career for a club that finished top 4 in his 2 full seasons you would expect a far better chance creation average.

Tyler Roberts has a better one (every 71minutes).
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It’s half we were the better team. Was surprised that Forshaw gave way to Klich. We lost control of the midfield with Klich. Ironically Rodrigo was causing a nuisance dropping deep in the 1st half dragging Holding out of position, which created space over the top. I watched MB shouting at him and 2nd half those runs disappeared. 2nd half performance was from a team that were all looking at each other gesticulating. No cohesion at all.
Arsenal did not have to do much for a 2 nil win - and they were awful.
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dester23 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:46 pm Forshaw and Roberts played OK in the first half
If we play more than 2 u23, the team looks completely lost. Maybe that's why klich plays everything when he is unfit.
Good first half, awful second one.
They did :tup: we looked a decent unit.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:53 pm It’s half we were the better team. Was surprised that Forshaw gave way to Klich. We lost control of the midfield with Klich. Ironically Rodrigo was causing a nuisance dropping deep in the 1st half dragging Holding out of position, which created space over the top. I watched MB shouting at him and 2nd half those runs disappeared. 2nd half performance was from a team that were all looking at each other gesticulating. No cohesion at all.
Arsenal did not have to do much for a 2 nil win - and they were awful.
Like chalk & cheese, DDB.
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Bothers me that a squad as small as ours is stretched further by these cup games and we can only assume the owners wanted a cup run for the $$. Very happy to see Drameh start and despite his opening mistake, I thought he was excellent. I would have liked to see Cresswell play alongside Llorente and Struijk played ahead of Kalvin - he's too valuable to us right now and our safety in the PL to be risked, but it's clear Bielsa wants his fitness up. Roberts is just not a 10 and we have genuinely failed to replace Hernandez. Rodrigo a better 10 and with Joffy in front of him I think we will hit our stride against Norwich. It's a must-win game.
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Two scruffy goals, a goal mouth scramble, and in off the shin pad. Eddie's smile said that he could not believe his luck. There was no beauty in their victory.
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Let's be honest here.
With the exception of Smith-Rowe and Pepe, we were playing Arsenal reserves last night. They made 9 changes from the win over Villa at the weekend and despite a reasonable first half we only really had a couple of clear cut chances all game.
I've no idea if the plan was to only give Forshaw 45 minutes but he was doing okay and his replacement Klich, had an absolute mare.
Also, the taking off of Llorente was a very strange decision. He was totally dominant until then.
Well played Cody Drameh though, a decent debut.
So here endeth our League Cup ambitions for another season in disappointing fashion.
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Cheer up lads, it’s only a couple of months before our customary FA Cup exit at the hands of a lower league club 😂😂
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Chilli D wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:01 am Let's be honest here.
With the exception of Smith-Rowe and Pepe, we were playing Arsenal reserves last night. They made 9 changes from the win over Villa at the weekend and despite a reasonable first half we only really had a couple of clear cut chances all game.
I've no idea if the plan was to only give Forshaw 45 minutes but he was doing okay and his replacement Klich, had an absolute mare.
Also, the taking off of Llorente was a very strange decision. He was totally dominant until then.
Well played Cody Drameh though, a decent debut.
So here endeth our League Cup ambitions for another season in disappointing fashion.
Is Ben White not a regular for Arsenal? Haven't really followed them this season. Crazy to think they spent £50m on a bench warmer.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:48 am Is Ben White not a regular for Arsenal? Haven't really followed them this season. Crazy to think they spent £50m on a bench warmer.
Yes actually I think he is. He and Smith-Rowe were probably the two and Pepe was one of the 9 changes.
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VinnysTattoo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:23 am Cheer up lads, it’s only a couple of months before our customary FA Cup exit at the hands of a lower league club 😂😂
The very reason I stopped going to cup games.

Fancy a club not wanting to win a football match, could only happen at Leeds :roll:
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