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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:28 am Perhaps Leon he hasnt fully recovered from Covid?
Maybe Ian, shouldn't have been selected if he wasn't fit
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1964white wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:24 am Maybe Ian, shouldn't have been selected if he wasn't fit
True but Covid is not fully understood and we are short on players.

Roberts has had it too I believe, and we played Koch with an injury.
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"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
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Pep on MB.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:23 pm
Pep on MB.
Well at least £8m a year is some kind of compensation.
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Such a class act....

Rival boss expresses support for Lampard following Chelsea sacking
Lampard built one of the best groups in English football — the whole world — and evidently that group needed development and time.
I regret that a colleague who has designed a very interesting project wasn’t able to finish it
English football, which had been a leader in the world in allowing managers time to develop their projects, has stopped doing so.

You do not need the whole article...just MB's comments to see the class and integrity he has...
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am I think Marcelo is too generous in his assumption that Lampard would build anything other than a disjointed team of overpaid superstars, no matter how much time he was given. Not forgetting also that Marcelo 'built' this brilliant Leeds team in about six weeks, without spending anything.
Marcelo is just being nice, he probably thinks Frank is a tosser the same as us.
We don’t have to be nice about it. 😉
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 am Very true. I sometimes wonder how Marcelo squares his respectful and professional demeanour with his innate honesty and not suffering of fools. That isn't at all a criticism btw.
It's a good point, as I know many wouldn't be as professional and respectful as MB is. At the end of the day it is because class is permanent, something Lampard sorely lacks.
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am I think Marcelo is too generous in his assumption that Lampard would build anything other than a disjointed team of overpaid superstars, no matter how much time he was given. Not forgetting also that Marcelo 'built' this brilliant Leeds team in about six weeks, without spending anything.
And thats the whole point of the man isnt it Sara...lets his actions speak for him...
billysboots wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:18 am Marcelo is just being nice, he probably thinks Frank is a tosser the same as us.
We don’t have to be nice about it. 😉
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 am Very true. I sometimes wonder how Marcelo squares his respectful and professional demeanour with his innate honesty and not suffering of fools. That isn't at all a criticism btw.
:) Must be very difficult for him ...
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I don't think there are enough superlatives for Bielsa. He is a genius. And his philosophy is always right. If it doesn't always succeed, it's not because he's wrong, it's because players, refs, VAR officials, groundsmen, medical staff etc. are not up to his standards. Or else opponents have spent hundreds of millions on players. And once every now and again you get the Black Swan event, like defeats at home to Wigan.

I don't get this whole "he should buy a bigger centre half, he should tighten the defence". He has spent 40 years and hundreds of thousands of hours honing his craft, his art. Leeds United is his crowning achievement, he has transformed players, a team, a club, a city. And he has done it by insisting on a brand of football that has left critics open mouthed, that everyone says cannot work...yet it does. I wouldn't change a hair on his head, let alone suggest he change his philosophy. The only downside is, we can't replicate him, we can't keep him on to him forever. But we should enjoy every single minute he spends at the club, and thank God, Buddha or Muhammad that he has landed at Elland Road.
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Mountain wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:36 pm I don't think there are enough superlatives for Bielsa. He is a genius. And his philosophy is always right. If it doesn't always succeed, it's not because he's wrong, it's because players, refs, VAR officials, groundsmen, medical staff etc. are not up to his standards. Or else opponents have spent hundreds of millions on players. And once every now and again you get the Black Swan event, like defeats at home to Wigan.

I don't get this whole "he should buy a bigger centre half, he should tighten the defence". He has spent 40 years and hundreds of thousands of hours honing his craft, his art. Leeds United is his crowning achievement, he has transformed players, a team, a club, a city. And he has done it by insisting on a brand of football that has left critics open mouthed, that everyone says cannot work...yet it does. I wouldn't change a hair on his head, let alone suggest he change his philosophy. The only downside is, we can't replicate him, we can't keep him on to him forever. But we should enjoy every single minute he spends at the club, and thank God, Buddha or Muhammad that he has landed at Elland Road.
Excellent post Mountain...and welcome to the forum...I concur 100% with your thoughts...

Edit... I do think he chose us and not the other way around, I think the team at the time and the club fit his vision of what he wants to truly build ...
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Don’t know if this has been posted elsewhere:

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Anonymous wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:54 am I think Marcelo is too generous in his assumption that Lampard would build anything other than a disjointed team of overpaid superstars, no matter how much time he was given. Not forgetting also that Marcelo 'built' this brilliant Leeds team in about six weeks, without spending anything.
Interesting really that the only 'praise' for Lampard is that he built a team. Hardly praise as such that he bought a load of players. Not that he assmbled a team to fit a tactical plan, showed tactical awareness etc etc.
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Anonymous wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:18 pm He spent a fortune on players he didn't know how to utilise, and underperformed, given the resources available, in both managerial appointments. Players have spoken of his tactical incompetence and poor man management. He gained his opportunities through nepotism, not merit. Praise or hope for his potential is based purely on sentiment or sycophancy. He is arrogant, entitled, and lacks self-awareness. And he's fat.
You get down off that fence Sara, and tell us what you really think.... :P

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I think Bielsa's comments were aimed more at the typical foreign owners not giving people a chance and changing it at the first sign of panic simply because they can and without much long term thought to the project as primarily it's all about money. We had one ourselves in Cellino who totally destabilised the club but thankfully we seem to have struck gold with Radrizanni. With regards to Lampard I think he'll go on to do ok, he'll defo get another chance with his name but after his antics at Elland road in the play offs hopefully it'll be in the National League South.
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Leeds United: Marcelo Bielsa praises Patrick Bamford

Leeds United have had a great first season back in the Premier League so far, and a lot of this has been down to the impact of Patrick Bamford. Marcelo Bielsa has heaped praise on the Englishman.

WHAT BIELSA HAD TO SAY ABOUT BAMFORD
Speaking before the clash against Crystal Palace, Bielsa said on his improvement: “I suppose it is to do with how he has matured professionally. I don’t know how he was before.
“What I can tell you is that Bamford is a complete mature professional. What indicates that a player has matured is the amount of attention he pays when he plays. That’s to say it is very difficult to catch him by surprise because he is focused on the game. The other aspect is from himself – he takes the best out of himself.
“If you see the players in the best teams in the world, not the best players, they are players who always play at one hundred per cent.
“It is very difficult that situations in games surprise or are superior to them. Those two characteristics you obtain by becoming more mature. It is not so frequent in young players but those who use their experiences.
“Bamford seems to me to have taken the correct conclusions from his career. He has been like this since I met him. I don’t know how he was before.”

IT IS EASY TO SEE WHY HE IS BEING PRAISED
Bamford has definitely had a great campaign so far this season. The Englishman has scored eleven Premier League goals in 20 appearances (Transfermarkt). In his last two games, he has picked up one goal and two assists against Leicester, and an assist against Everton as he returned to form after a dry spell.
His stats across the season show why Bielsa is so impressed. As well as his eleven goals, Bamford has also picked up five assists and managed 3.4 shots per game (WhoScored). Without his eleven goals, Leeds would only have 25 this campaign, meaning that the Englishman has nearly scored a third of their top-flight goals (SofaScore).
Without him, the club would certainly be a lot closer to the relegation zone, but the former Chelsea youngster has taken to the top flight like a duck to water this time around, and if this was his ‘last chance’, he has certainly grabbed it.
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Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:03 pm Leeds United: Marcelo Bielsa praises Patrick Bamford



IT IS EASY TO SEE WHY HE IS BEING PRAISED
Bamford has definitely had a great campaign so far this season. The Englishman has scored eleven Premier League goals in 20 appearances (Transfermarkt). In his last two games, he has picked up one goal and two assists against Leicester, and an assist against Everton as he returned to form after a dry spell.
His stats across the season show why Bielsa is so impressed. As well as his eleven goals, Bamford has also picked up five assists and managed 3.4 shots per game (WhoScored). Without his eleven goals, Leeds would only have 25 this campaign, meaning that the Englishman has nearly scored a third of their top-flight goals (SofaScore).
Without him, the club would certainly be a lot closer to the relegation zone, but the former Chelsea youngster has taken to the top flight like a duck to water this time around, and if this was his ‘last chance’, he has certainly grabbed it.
Bamford has been our main/only striker in most of our games this season therefore I would have expected him to have scored nearly a third of our goals. I suspect that would be the case for most teams who only play with 1 striker so, to me, that is a bit of a none statistic.

That is not supposed to be any sleight on Bamford by the way there’s no doubt he’s been very impressive so far this season. He’s been really clinical in his finishing and has still managed to keep up his Championship standard of closing down/first line of defence play as well.

Keep up the good work Paddy!
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The relationship between Bamford and Bielsa seems very special. Is it 2 years since we saw that volley on the training ground clip with Bielsa running to hug him? And that season Bamford said Bielsa doesn't just try to mould better players, but better people? And he's not the only one, Phillips, Dallas, Meslier...you just know there are very few big egos in that dressing room, and that Bielsa was made for this group of players and vice versa.
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Mountain wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:21 pm The relationship between Bamford and Bielsa seems very special. Is it 2 years since we saw that volley on the training ground clip with Bielsa running to hug him? And that season Bamford said Bielsa doesn't just try to mould better players, but better people? And he's not the only one, Phillips, Dallas, Meslier...you just know there are very few big egos in that dressing room, and that Bielsa was made for this group of players and vice versa.
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