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faaip wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:05 pm Now Pontus not starting is a worry, injury or is he on the move?
he only returned to trining 6 days ago didnt he? i expect its that
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So all the other WC players are missing game one of the new season ?
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Bielsa tbf is very adamant players must be ready for his style before he plays them.

Bottom line is we got players in to late and with the World Cup, always unlikely Jansson would start.

Goes back to good ole Angus.

"We hope to he ready for Stoke".


Well we aint.
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Cjay wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:04 pm Bielsa tbf is very adamant players must be ready for his style before he plays them.

Bottom line is we got players in to late and with the World Cup, always unlikely Jansson would start.

Goes back to good ole Angus.

"We hope to he ready for Stoke".


Well we aint.
As an business organisation they should be ready, truth is they spent far too much time fannying about on other projects rather than concentrating on LUFC matters in hand.

It's an absolute disgrace we haven't got the ideal eleven starting v Stoke on Sunday
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faaip wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:49 pm So all the other WC players are missing game one of the new season ?
I doubt it

Could only happen at Leeds
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1964white wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:20 pm As an business organisation they should be ready, truth is they spent far too much time fannying about on other projects rather than concentrating on LUFC matters in hand.

It's an absolute disgrace we haven't got the ideal eleven starting v Stoke on Sunday
Its not ideal and its not fair on Bielsa.

Bit concerned that he clearly wasnt thrilled by Ronnie Vs sale and then Forshaws injury, he doesnt know if the club will replace Vieira.

Think if Bielsa has his way there will be 3 signings more at least.

Hope the board back him properly.
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The more I read, the more I like him. Still think we need some quality in, but we won't fail due to a lack of preperation or effort
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The biggest problem we have, I feel, is the undercutting of his ideal preparation time. Newcomers will be held back until they are, in his eyes, proficient with his methods. Against Stoke and Derby he is going to have a baptism of fire, because all the other Championship teams will know about his methods, how he wants his team to play, and they will have schooled their players in how best to combat his methods.

His strength, therefore, is also, potentially, our Achilles heel. This may take time to overcome and I hope that our boo-boys don't get on the warpath before our season has really started. I've seen high expectations and adverse reactions to a less than stellar start before, yet this is potentially the highest of the lot, with the most riding on it.

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Norm wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:03 pm
I'm not scared of a bad start but I am scared of a bad reaction to it.
I have a feeling this season will be opposite to last, as in slow start with it getting better as it goes on,like you say though, how patient some will be is another matter.
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1964white wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:20 pm As an business organisation they should be ready, truth is they spent far too much time fannying about on other projects rather than concentrating on LUFC matters in hand.

It's an absolute disgrace we haven't got the ideal eleven starting v Stoke on Sunday
I saw Pulis interviewed this aft on Sky. He was saying that he doesn't have all the players in that he needs for the start of the season. He then spoke about Stoke in 2008 when he didn't have all the players in he needed then either and they had a bad start....but as the players he wanted eventually came in, they went on and got promoted to the Premier League. As he said, "a poor start doesn't necessarily mean a poor finish, it's a long season"
Last season we had a brilliant start and fell away majestically, I would prefer a slower start if it means a charge up the table in the second half of the season.
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Marcelo Bielsa remains in the market for a new centre-half this summer and that should come as music to our ears

“But if we could add another option in this area it would be good too.”

We do have makeshift options like Phillips and Luke Ayling can play there too but it is a risk we don’t need to take with the window still open.

Who comes in, then, remains to be seen but we need to act sharpish now with less than a week left in the window.
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1964white wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:51 pm Marcelo Bielsa remains in the market for a new centre-half this summer and that should come as music to our ears

“But if we could add another option in this area it would be good too.”

We do have makeshift options like Phillips and Luke Ayling can play there too but it is a risk we don’t need to take with the window still open.

Who comes in, then, remains to be seen but we need to act sharpish now with less than a week left in the window.
I dont think he is particularly happy with the squad.

He isnt stupid, he is going to know there are gaping gaps in it.

Clearly wasnt happy with the Vieira sale.

Clever of Bielsa to not have a fit, but he strongly implied he wanted a cb and a midfielder.
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whiteswan wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:31 pm Last season we had a brilliant start and fell away majestically, I would prefer a slower start if it means a charge up the table in the second half of the season.
And under Monk we had a really slow start but then built momentum so hopefully we can do that if we have a slow start under Bielsa (although not the ending that we had with Monk).
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:04 pm And under Monk we had a really slow start but then built momentum so hopefully we can do that if we have a slow start under Bielsa (although not the ending that we had with Monk).
Yes we did because we didn't sign Pontus until after the season had started

Once again we left our recruitment far too late, If our management had got their act together earlier we wouldn't be expecting a slow start where we could lose vital points, two of the three summer months were wasted :(
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Cjay wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:01 pm I dont think he is particularly happy with the squad.

He isnt stupid, he is going to know there are gaping gaps in it.

Clearly wasnt happy with the Vieira sale.

Clever of Bielsa to not have a fit, but he strongly implied he wanted a cb and a midfielder.
He needs to remind his bosses the promises they made to him & our fans, so far as you mentioned previously we've only spent £3m as the Bamford fee has been cancelled out by the Vieira sale, once again we are doing our business on the cheap :(
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1964white wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:43 am He needs to remind his bosses the promises they made to him & our fans, so far as you mentioned previously we've only spent £3m as the Bamford fee has been cancelled out by the Vieira sale, once again we are doing our business on the cheap :(
Convinced Bielsa was told during negotiations the club wanted to sell Vieira, would explain why he was playing Philips.

Yes, and we are having to because we wasted so much money last year :(

Probably wasted £10mil last year, Radz should have matched the 49ers £10mil and put that into our transfer pot.

We were lead to believe we would "do a wolves" and have "an exciting summer".

Cant believe how easily Radz has been let off , that Wolves rant should be mentioned every interview.
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Cjay wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:38 am Convinced Bielsa was told during negotiations the club wanted to sell Vieira, would explain why he was playing Philips.

Yes, and we are having to because we wasted so much money last year :(

Probably wasted £10mil last year, Radz should have matched the 49ers £10mil and put that into our transfer pot.

We were lead to believe we would "do a wolves" and have "an exciting summer".

Cant believe how easily Radz has been let off , that Wolves rant should be mentioned every interview.
Blinkered mate, none of our previous owners would have got away with such leniency

Radz priorities should be Leeds United first & foremost
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I’m expecting a slow start but agree with previous posts, as long as the fans don’t get restless it’ll be a work in progress. I’m expecting to see bettervteam performances after they’ve played half a dozen games with each other.
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1964white wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:45 am Blinkered mate, none of our previous owners would have got away with such leniency

Radz priorities should be Leeds United first & foremost
They wouldnt, especially after the Myanmar debacle.

There would be outcry if Cellino was here, he'd sold Vieira and this was his window not Radz.

People would be demanding he follows through on what he said, it wasnt even an implication, he blatantly said it, "if it was legal i will do it". :duno:
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