The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 3rd July) - St Mary's Standoff as Saints Refuse to Budge on Shea Charles

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 3rd July) - St Mary's Standoff as Saints Refuse to Budge on Shea Charles

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Barlow Boy wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 10:42 am Wednesday will be top League One next season, certainly up there anyway.
There's a really good feel about the Wendies. Gray will get plenty of game time too. Sheff U just couldn't guarantee game time...
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Interesting to know if any of our posters that are saying to walk away from the Shea Charles deal were slaggint he club off last season when Sunderland were paying a bit extra and getting the players that we were interested in but 'walked away from' when the asking price got too high.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 3rd July) - St Mary's Standoff as Saints Refuse to Budge on Shea Charles

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weasel wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 3:33 pm Interesting to know if any of our posters that are saying to walk away from the Shea Charles deal were slaggint he club off last season when Sunderland were paying a bit extra and getting the players that we were interested in but 'walked away from' when the asking price got too high.

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Not the same though.

Shea Charles is a decent but unproven Championship midfielder who plays for a poor international side.

Habib Diarra for example was a regular for a number of seasons for Strasbourg in Ligue 1 and for Senegal a fairly high quality international side.

One had evidence he could compete at the top level one doesn't.

So one justified a bit of a stretch one doesn't imo.

I think £20mil is absolute top price for Charles imo and even that is pushing it
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Ellandback1 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 3:27 pm There's a really good feel about the Wendies. Gray will get plenty of game time too. Sheff U just couldn't guarantee game time...
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Cjay wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 3:44 pm Not the same though.

Shea Charles is a decent but unproven Championship midfielder who plays for a poor international side.

Habib Diarra for example was a regular for a number of seasons for Strasbourg in Ligue 1 and for Senegal a fairly high quality international side.

One had evidence he could compete at the top level one doesn't.

So one justified a bit of a stretch one doesn't imo.

I think £20mil is absolute top price for Charles imo and even that is pushing it
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Think we need to comb further through the Bundesliga ranks for other Stach and Tanaka-type finds. We’ve had a reasonably good hit rate there and the pricepoints have been absolute steals.
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JoeDenver wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 6:55 pm Think we need to comb further through the Bundesliga ranks for other Stach and Tanaka-type finds. We’ve had a reasonably good hit rate there and the pricepoints have been absolute steals.
I’m sure DF has mentioned Bundesliga players to the board if there’s any he’s interested in.
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weasel wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 3:33 pm Interesting to know if any of our posters that are saying to walk away from the Shea Charles deal were slaggint he club off last season when Sunderland were paying a bit extra and getting the players that we were interested in but 'walked away from' when the asking price got too high.

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Cjay wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 3:44 pm Not the same though.

Shea Charles is a decent but unproven Championship midfielder who plays for a poor international side.

Habib Diarra for example was a regular for a number of seasons for Strasbourg in Ligue 1 and for Senegal a fairly high quality international side.

One had evidence he could compete at the top level one doesn't.

So one justified a bit of a stretch one doesn't imo.

I think £20mil is absolute top price for Charles imo and even that is pushing it
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SG90 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 8:56 am It's getting embarrassing how obsessed we are with Charles, he really isn't all that. I'll be honest, I haven't heard his name pop up much if he's so good.

Completely forgot Schmidt existed tbh. We need to sell these players still clogging up the wage bill.
Reminds me of when we were hanging around all summer for Ben White 😂

Brighton stuck out for £50 million, and got it from Arsenal. One of the EPL teams will pay the asking price, so we either pay that, or just move on.

Brighton seem to drive a hard bargain and get what they want, whereas we get obsessed with one target then someone more decisive swoops in and says "Cheers, I'll have that".

We got stiffed on Pascal, and the peanuts we got for Cresswell was shocking. No sign of our dross being moved on
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White Riot wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2026 5:42 am Reminds me of when we were hanging around all summer for Ben White 😂

Brighton stuck out for £50 million, and got it from Arsenal. One of the EPL teams will pay the asking price, so we either pay that, or just move on.

Brighton seem to drive a hard bargain and get what they want, whereas we get obsessed with one target then someone more decisive swoops in and says "Cheers, I'll have that".

We got stiffed on Pascal, and the peanuts we got for Cresswell was shocking. No sign of our dross being moved on
Arsenal bought him a year later after he'd had a full season playing in the prem for Brighton. From memory Brighton wanted around £35m that summer with us really the only club after him.
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weasel wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2026 2:40 pm Arsenal bought him a year later after he'd had a full season playing in the prem for Brighton. From memory Brighton wanted around £35m that summer with us really the only club after him.
With the money we spent on Llorente, Koch, James and Aaronson, etc, with hindsight I'd say that we'd have been better stumping up the cash for White.

But no guarantee that he would come to Leeds anyway.
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White Riot wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2026 3:30 pm With the money we spent on Llorente, Koch, James and Aaronson, etc, with hindsight I'd say that we'd have been better stumping up the cash for White.

But no guarantee that he would come to Leeds anyway.
Koch was excellent, Llorente was a good right sided CB but never played there apart for the start of his career at ER where he won MOTM votes every other week it seemed. He got hurt, Koch got fit and became undroppable. When Llorente got fit he was shoe horned into left side and was awful then benched.
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JoeDenver wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2026 6:55 pm Think we need to comb further through the Bundesliga ranks for other Stach and Tanaka-type finds. We’ve had a reasonably good hit rate there and the pricepoints have been absolute steals.
I agree! No reason to pay top money for bang average players.
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I think it's time to move on from Shea wasting to much time on this guy ,and is he going to make that much difference us.
The end of the say HE is in the championship for a reason he us part of a very poor team.
If we gave serious money we need a striker and cd to replace Pascal and sort the keeper issue out ASAP .
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The Subhuman wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2026 4:00 pm Koch was excellent, Llorente was a good right sided CB but never played there apart for the start of his career at ER where he won MOTM votes every other week it seemed. He got hurt, Koch got fit and became undroppable. When Llorente got fit he was shoe horned into left side and was awful then benched.
Koch lived up to his name. Had hgh hopes for him but he was average at best. I liked Llorente when he played in the right position.
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