And I don't get the knocking of Rutter/Summerville and Gnonto. Geo left it all out there today. You're not on any moral high ground here picking on the players. I think we were hampered today with no striker on the pitch...againweasel wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:43 pm Well said and a voice of sanity.
I don't get the knocking of Farke. Rutter, Summerville and Gnonto failed when the pressure was on. Even against Norwich it took the free kick goal to give us lift off - prior to that Summerville had missed a good chance. Against Leicester and the forwards missed great chances, we then go a goal down and it takes a defender to get us level. Against Blackburn it was same story they didn't show up.
If you're big players don't show up there is little that tactics matter. Give me Dan James over any of those mentioned any day of the week.
Hopefully this turns out for the best. Yes we will lose a few players, maybe more than few, but it doesn't have to be a disaster. I hope we keep Gray, out of the players that will get offers he is the one I really want to stay. Rutter could turn out to be anything, losing him could be like losing Cantona but equally I have seen no real progression from him this season after flattering early on. Summerville and Gnonto are matchwinners on their day but seem like flat track bullies. Lose them but keep James and I am happy, we then hopefully have some money to buy another winger. If we could get Jack Clarke I would be delighted.
Let's start at the back and if we lose Messlier well it is meh. Every year it is the same - talking baout potential and forgiving him mistakes. A steady keeper, Alex McCarthy is out of contract, and I feel we are improved in the short term certainly. Full back and who knows what will happen with Firpo. If he stays I am happy, if we get decent money I am happy. Byram is good as back-up would be first choice but for injuries so we need to buy. Wouldn't be averse to trying to get Conor Roberts who may well want to leave Burnley. Ampadu I would expect to stay, Struyjk should be back too. Maybe Cresswell steps up as it is unlikey Rodon returns but who knows maybe we can tempt him.
Midfield and hopefully Gray can go in there. We need goals and creativity there. I Gruev and Kamara stay then that's fine as one can play DM. Ideally a creative midfielder can be signed..
Up front and can we get the best out of Piroe or does Joseph get the chance to show what he can do? Maybe both of them start.
It doesn't need to be a disaster. Are Burnley, Luton and Sheff U as good as Leicester and Southampton? Is any promoted league 1 team as good as Ipswich? There seems nothing to fear so as long as we do okay with incoming signings to replace the leavers then we should be favourites to go up.
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Its was a poor display. James being our best attacking player by a mile. He drives forward and puts crosses into the box and he has a good shot on him. A fraction lower and we are right back in the game and with that momentum we probably go on and win the game.
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Totally agree unfortunately Gnotto,Rutter,summerville Kamare, to name some of the players who never showed up .I hate to say it but Southampton deserved the win,now begins the household sale of players start again next year and got to go straight up not sure DFis for us 1 plan only.
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Hampered today because we were so narrow even the commentators picked up on it and because we absolutely refused to cross the ball.The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:52 pm And I don't get the knocking of Rutter/Summerville and Gnonto. Geo left it all out there today. You're not on any moral high ground here picking on the players. I think we were hampered today with no striker on the pitch...again
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The result was no great surprise to me. Southampton had won both of the league fixtures, after all.
We had chances to secure a top two finish, but we went off the boil at the business end of the season.
We had chances to secure a top two finish, but we went off the boil at the business end of the season.
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DarkoSG90 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:26 pm Gonna have to rely on loans and frees next season. Not saying there won't be quality to find though, as Ipswich and Southampton have shown.
Summerville, Gray and Gnonto sold to pay for the loan rats. Firpo loaned out to get off the wage bill and maybe Bamford edged out if we can do a deal.
A squad looking like this:
Meslier
Loan Struijk Ampadu Byram
Kamara Gruev
James Piroe Rutter
Joseph
Good enough for top 6, but not promotion. We need goals in midfield and creativity.
Firpo Cresswell Struijk New player
Ampadu Gray
James Piroe Rutter
Joseph
Subs
Klasson
Byram
Kamara
Gruev
Gelheart
Re: Play Off Final - Post Match Discussion
DarkoSG90 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:26 pm Gonna have to rely on loans and frees next season. Not saying there won't be quality to find though, as Ipswich and Southampton have shown.
Summerville, Gray and Gnonto sold to pay for the loan rats. Firpo loaned out to get off the wage bill and maybe Bamford edged out if we can do a deal.
A squad looking like this:
Meslier
Loan Struijk Ampadu Byram
Kamara Gruev
James Piroe Rutter
Joseph
Good enough for top 6, but not promotion. We need goals in midfield and creativity.
Firpo Cresswell Struijk New player
Ampadu Gray
James Piroe Rutter
Joseph
Subs
Klasson
Byram
Kamara
Gruev
Gelheart
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Well that was an absolute shocking performance lads, who would have thought we'd lose out in the play offs, aren't we the best team in the league? Weren't we supposed to 'storm the league'?!
The media have been banging on about Leeds so much so that I got sick of hearing it,when it really mattered it looked like we couldn't be Farking bothered for most of the match!
I'd certainly been predicting a riot all season, although it's ironic we stole the song from the band from the actual Premier League team Leicester. Serves us right I suppose, now we can travel down to Leicester to watch some decent football, we got what we deserved ;)
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The media have been banging on about Leeds so much so that I got sick of hearing it,when it really mattered it looked like we couldn't be Farking bothered for most of the match!
I'd certainly been predicting a riot all season, although it's ironic we stole the song from the band from the actual Premier League team Leicester. Serves us right I suppose, now we can travel down to Leicester to watch some decent football, we got what we deserved ;)
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Think you mean Darlow who was rubbish in his one game, unless your starting Gyabi in goal? I like Mes and he's Leeds, plus good enough for this division. Just coach him properly. Klaesson also impressed me.
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Enjoy the points deductionJ21 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:18 pm Well that was an absolute shocking performance lads, who would have thought we'd lose out in the play offs, aren't we the best team in the league? Weren't we supposed to 'storm the league'?!
The media have been banging on about Leeds so much so that I got sick of hearing it,when it really mattered it looked like we couldn't be Farking bothered for most of the match!
I'd certainly been predicting a riot all season, although it's ironic we stole the song from the band from the actual Premier League team Leicester. Serves us right I suppose, now we can travel down to Leicester to watch some decent football, we got what we deserved ;)
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Hi GeronimoJ21 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:18 pm Well that was an absolute shocking performance lads, who would have thought we'd lose out in the play offs, aren't we the best team in the league? Weren't we supposed to 'storm the league'?!
The media have been banging on about Leeds so much so that I got sick of hearing it,when it really mattered it looked like we couldn't be Farking bothered for most of the match!
I'd certainly been predicting a riot all season, although it's ironic we stole the song from the band from the actual Premier League team Leicester. Serves us right I suppose, now we can travel down to Leicester to watch some decent football, we got what we deserved ;)
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Leicester it's obvious.
Still crying about I predict a riot ffs
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Really sad bunch. How will they cope getting battered every week since they can't take losing in the Championship lol?
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The song by the band that support Leeds and are named for Leeds United .... wierd small minded fucker. Didn't realize another fan base is deluded enough to try to claim it tbh
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I mean we play it after every home game, but they think it's only for them. Got lucky once, after being funded by dodgy Thai money, and think they're something special.The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 5:24 pm The song by the band that support Leeds and are named for Leeds United .... wierd fucker. Didn't realize another fan base is deluded enough to try to claim it tbh
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Cause they thought they had the divine right to win every match this season, hence the bitterness whenever they lost. Most of their fans think they're getting top ten next season, but they'll be straight back down.
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I could run around like a d*ck but it doesn't mean I would have impacted the game.The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:52 pm And I don't get the knocking of Rutter/Summerville and Gnonto. Geo left it all out there today. You're not on any moral high ground here picking on the players. I think we were hampered today with no striker on the pitch...again
Piroe is a striker, it is up to others to create chances for him. Create chances and get the ball to Kane and he will score, don't create chances or give him the ball and he has little impact on the game.
I said before the game that if Rutter, Summerville and Gnonto play well then we win. They didn't and we didn't. Defensively and midfield we weren't great but fairly much contained them for the main but we lacked any threat.