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Should he stay or should he go?

Yes, needs to go
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No, great season considering the issues
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Not bothered either way
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Re: Should he stay or should he go?

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Cjay wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:54 pm Does anyone think he's managed the squad well?

Rodon and Ampadu have done well at the back but we have missed the option of Ampadu in midfield. Having Cresswell as an option would have allowed us to push Ampadu forward more often, secure things in midfield.

Often we've needed something different up front. Gelhardt and Joseph are the options but you can't throw them in after 5/10 minutes here or there. That said, the only time Joseph did start, he impressed!
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:11 pm Rodon and Ampadu have done well at the back but we have missed the option of Ampadu in midfield. Having Cresswell as an option would have allowed us to push Ampadu forward more often, secure things in midfield.

Often we've needed something different up front. Gelhardt and Joseph are the options but you can't throw them in after 5/10 minutes here or there. That said, the only time Joseph did start, he impressed!
Cresswell is a RCB, I know a lot of fans think that doesn't matter but it absolutely does. There are CB's that can play both positions but they're as rare as rocking horse s**t. left sided CB's are very rare, we're lucky to have Struijk

RCB's are easy to find

Point being I don't think Rodon can play left well... and CC almost certainly not.
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Re: Should he stay or should he go?

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Jaydog wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:09 pm Ok give me names 😁
He won't be sacked no point :)

But put it this way

We'd have never appointed Bielsa or Kompany or Mckenna or Nuno or Silva or Xisco or Bilic or Parker.

All managers who won promotion very recently but had 0 Championship experience before appointment
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Stay 100%
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danhirons wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:10 pm Where's your source that we hired farke based on allardyce's guidance?
Allardyce said on his podcast he'd given advice.

He and Kinnear are thick as thieves.

And Championship experience being needed is a very old school mentality it's not a stretch ?
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Could make the argument he's done it twice, unlikely to do it a third time. But I won't make that argument
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He should go, but I don't think he will. Unfortunately we will waste the first ten games of the season and be miles behind. He's failed tbh. 2 of the relegated 3 went back up . I feel it's his tactics and decision making, rather than personnel, that's cost us.

Using the same players to death
No subs till 75th min
Freezing out young talent
One tactic and no plan b

I would've kept Allardyce, as I think he'd have got us up. We need an experienced manager who can handle the pressure, ie like Bielsa. I'd try for Moyes.
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So what good we'll achieve by changing our coach, we've been down this road to no avail previously.

We're going up as champions next season.
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Barlow Boy wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:17 pm Stay 100%
How was being there Kev?
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1964white wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:19 pm So what good we'll achieve by changing our coach, we've been down this road to no avail previously.

We're going up as champions next season.
Are you guaranteeing that?
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"The issues" in the summer didn't have anything to do with not beating Watford in March when we were 2nd.

Or Sunderland when we were 2nd.

Or the poor December form.

Anyway 7 points from our last 8 is what did us.
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1964white wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:19 pm So what good we'll achieve by changing our coach, we've been down this road to no avail previously.

We're going up as champions next season.
How was Wembley Leon? Actually being there...
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I just instantly burst into song reading the title. And the song convinced me he should stay. He gets 10 games to get us off to a flyer. I think we all know that.
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I think Farke should stay.

I'm not unhappy at being in the Championship for another year, I think it might benefit us, as it'll show us the players who want to play for us and those who don't (I reckon Archie will stay).

If players decide that they can't face another year with us in the Championship, sell them on ! As Billy Bremner said, "side before self".

Next year, I'd like us to play Joseph and Gelhardt - neither has really been given much of a chance - same goes for Cresswell.

When we are on form, we're a great and exciting team to watch; problem is though, when teams suss us out and prepare well against us, we don't seem to have a Plan B.

Oh yes, we need to offer MUCH more of a threat at corners and set pieces - something to practise for next season.
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:50 pm Genuine question though. People keep going on about this being one of the best Championship sides ever. Is it really that good in terms of individual quality and depth?
We have/had a good side if everyone played at their best. Unfortunately we have too many that are great on their day but are 3s or 9s out of 10 rather than consistently 7 or 8.
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He'll 95% stays, he needs to have us top 3 and in touch by Christmas or better irrespective of the off season or I think he might go then. Personally I don't think he's good enough to get us up tbh and the further removed you are the harder it gets..

Going to be a very interesting off season
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weasel wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:32 pm We have/had a good side if everyone played at their best. Unfortunately we have too many that are great on their day but are 3s or 9s out of 10 rather than consistently 7 or 8.
That's a Championship squad.

Consistent 7 or 8s play at the highest level.

Farke is a bang average Championship manager said it all along.

The opinion of him is very different outside of some of our fanbase
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The Subhuman wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:23 pm Are you guaranteeing that?
You can't guarantee anything in life apart from life & death, mate.

Farke's assembled squad built in a matter of two or three weeks after the season had started was littered with flaws & limitations. I'm sure we'll be looking to rectify the problems & build a more balanced team.
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weasel wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:32 pm We have/had a good side if everyone played at their best. Unfortunately we have too many that are great on their day but are 3s or 9s out of 10 rather than consistently 7 or 8.
Indeed Weasel 👍

Our squad has flaws & limitations.
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1964white wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 5:55 pm Indeed Weasel 👍

Our squad has flaws & limitations.
But that's literally what a Championship squad is.

Bielsa had a limited squad, Mckenna had a limited squad.

The manager is meant to make the difference.

Farke doesn't.
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