The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
Good Morning. It's Wednesday 10th April, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...
Whites denied two stonewall pens in goalless draw
Leeds moved back up to second place in the Championship, after being held to a 0-0 draw by Sunderland. On the whole, it was a much better performance from the men in White. Their movement off the ball was a lot better and their passing crisper. They had definitely re-found some (but not all) of the swagger that had deserted them since coming back from International Duty.
Upfront was slightly different. They could still be playing now, and not have scored, yet, they had opportunities! The Whites were denied two stone wall penalties, and missed a hatful of half chances that would have found the back of the net just weeks ago. The visitors never really looked like scoring, Jack Clarke (the Crysensio Summerville of their team) was a constant handful though, but was kept in check by Archie Gray and Ethan Ampadu.
We must remember, Sunderland (up until last night) had only won once from their previous ten outings, losing seven and conceding sixteen times, the odds with bet365 football on them getting anyhting from the game were not good. But Leeds only managed jut one shot on target all evening! There seemed to be a lack of urgency from the players, which had filtered through to the terraces. The normally rowdy Elland Road faithful (you know who you are) were unresponsive for much of the game. The nervous energy filling the stadium finally cleared with ten minutes on the clock, but the substitutions came far too late to make a difference.
Forward line needs addressing
It was a brave decision for Daniel Farke to keep faith with the same starting XI that lost at Coventry, and it may yet pay dividends in the long run, as Leeds look to build on their performance, when they visit Ewood Park at the weekend. They must however improve drastically in-front of goal. It's easy to figure out why Summerville once again tried to go it alone last night, as Leeds frailties in the final third were lid bare, with all to see.
Leeds, and Daniel Farke must take responsibility. That had the chance to strengthen their squad in January, but didn't. Instead, players like Keifer Moore have taken the Championship by storm. His 7.49 'Whoscored' average rating not only places him top of the pile for Ipswich, but he also makes the top three in the Championship!
Bringing Messrs Piroe and Joseph on for the final eight minutes is a slap in the face to all Leeds fans. Bamford had one off shot target shot all night, and that is before addressing his shot to goal ratio. Expecting different results when doing the same things, may be an indication that Farke has run out of ideas; surely changes upfront must be made at Blackburn.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
Pens - yes, but then we also should have scored in open play. I can't blame the ref for our lack of goal scoring.
Bamford - I would make a change for Bburn to try something new as what we're doing isn't effective at scoring goals. The answer is more than Bamford. We need to vary the pace, angle and position of attacks. We are very predictable with ponderous possession to probe for the ideal opening which rarely appears.
But then what does it matter what I think, DF will probably put the same side out.
A better question to me is what has changed from a couple of months ago? We were reliably winning games, now we're not.
Fitness / injury?
Fear / stress?
Other teams learn our approach?
Pressure?
Bamford - I would make a change for Bburn to try something new as what we're doing isn't effective at scoring goals. The answer is more than Bamford. We need to vary the pace, angle and position of attacks. We are very predictable with ponderous possession to probe for the ideal opening which rarely appears.
But then what does it matter what I think, DF will probably put the same side out.
A better question to me is what has changed from a couple of months ago? We were reliably winning games, now we're not.
Fitness / injury?
Fear / stress?
Other teams learn our approach?
Pressure?
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
We will have no chance of points against Blackburn if we turn up at Ewood Park when they will be at Elland Road!!
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
Bamford will play every game until the end of the season unless he gets injured just like every other manager has since Bielsa.
We are a one trick pony cut out Sommerville and Rutter and we're limp.
Problem is the last few months we've come to expect more
We are a one trick pony cut out Sommerville and Rutter and we're limp.
Problem is the last few months we've come to expect more
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
Last night we were missing that Spark to get the team going. Let us be quite clear - before the International break that spark was mostly Gnonto then Rutter and Summerville.
Gnonto got injured, Rutter had surgery and is not the same player yet and Summerville is doing his best to create something but teams are wise to our threat down the left and because this is all we really have currently - from an attacking perspective we are somewhat one dimensional and predictable.
With Gnonto back for Blackburn this should change.
Dan James is not an effective outlet unless he is running onto the ball. He is not the type of player you can much from with a switch of play into his body.
Gnonto got injured, Rutter had surgery and is not the same player yet and Summerville is doing his best to create something but teams are wise to our threat down the left and because this is all we really have currently - from an attacking perspective we are somewhat one dimensional and predictable.
With Gnonto back for Blackburn this should change.
Dan James is not an effective outlet unless he is running onto the ball. He is not the type of player you can much from with a switch of play into his body.
Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
I'm sure DF said that Gnonto wouldn't be considered fit enough to start until the Boro game.DDB220 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:58 am Last night we were missing that Spark to get the team going. Let us be quite clear - before the International break that spark was mostly Gnonto then Rutter and Summerville.
Gnonto got injured, Rutter had surgery and is not the same player yet and Summerville is doing his best to create something but teams are wise to our threat down the left and because this is all we really have currently - from an attacking perspective we are somewhat one dimensional and predictable.
With Gnonto back for Blackburn this should change.
Dan James is not an effective outlet unless he is running onto the ball. He is not the type of player you can much from with a switch of play into his body.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
The tempo has gone. If you’re full on and overrunning teams with a high energy, high press game plan, you score goals.
Our current ponderous approach means we don’t.
And poorer teams have cottoned on to the fact that they can rough us up without serious comeback from the officials, which has been what has cost us most points this season.
Our current ponderous approach means we don’t.
And poorer teams have cottoned on to the fact that they can rough us up without serious comeback from the officials, which has been what has cost us most points this season.
Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
Hurrah another clean sheet, not let in many goals since Crimbo
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
Penalties denied so the retard scum at Portman Road can be awarded them tonight .
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
We can't say we didn't get anybfavors from Ipswich and Leicester both have dropped points where as if we had picked up points we would have been a good 7 points clear at the top. But as allways with leeds the important games turn out either loses or draws.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
That's a bloody good point. Better let Farke know!!!whiteinfrance wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:52 am We will have no chance of points against Blackburn if we turn up at Ewood Park when they will be at Elland Road!!
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
He’ll start Saturday for certain. Probably 65-70 minutes then Dan comes on. Szmodics will have had a hattrick by then though
Ipswich won’t fade. As predicted.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
Gnonto has been a massive miss. James has done well but Gnonto is a different class
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
If he isn’t fit enough for 90 use him for 45 - 60 mins. If DF can manage his mins as a sub when we are chasing the game - surely the same can be applied to starting.
DJ has always been better against a tired defence particularly if they are chasing the game leaving space in behind.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
For me the problem in recent times has started at the back . Some time ago Farke criticised the team in one game for always looking to attack in transitions rather than picking their moments. The effect of that has been to turn us into a completely ponderous sideways and backwards possession team who never look to go forward from a breakdown of the opposition attacks. The only breakaway goal that has been scored in recent weeks came because the ball broke to Piroe who looked to go forward and found James with a perfectly weighted ball . When you're playing a defensively set up team your best chance of getting space is when they are unbalanced after an attack breaks down and earlier in the season Rutter and Kamara were staring deadly attacks in those situations. Now when an attack breaks down Rodon, Ampadu and Meslier pass it around between them ignoring runs from Gray and Bamford into space. Then when the opposing defence have resettled they either give it back to them with a lousy pass or give it to one of the front 5 in a situation where they are tightly marked and can only rarely hold possession or make space for themselves. It's no wonder that there were no shots on goal when we are creating the circumstances where the opposing side have all the time in the world to park the bus in front of their box.
Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) Whites denied two stone wall pens in goalless draw
That’s the problem with five subs, defensive teams take it in turns to potentially get a yellow, then they get subbed later for the subs to then take their turn to get a yellow.Carrick Dave wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:07 am
And poorer teams have cottoned on to the fact that they can rough us up without serious comeback from the officials, which has been what has cost us most points this season.
It just disrupts the game while they keep their shape and hope to nick a goal on the break, that’s why it can be boring against certain teams with us recycling the ball constantly along the back line without much threat to our opponents.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
What is the triangle at the back supposed to achieve.
Rodon - Ampadu- Rodon- Mes -Ampadu- Rodon- Mes-hoof
Rodon - Ampadu- Rodon- Mes -Ampadu- Rodon- Mes-hoof
Ipswich won’t fade. As predicted.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
Got this earlier this morning
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
mentalcase wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:39 am Got this earlier this morning
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I just said this above. Was blowing my mind. Endless passes followed by a hoof up field. Pointless.
Ipswich won’t fade. As predicted.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 10th April) - Whites denied two stonewall penalties in goalless draw
We have struggled since the shitty Int' break, but I have also been saying that easter would be a big tester and it continues on.
Last night we were poor again, I don't think the penalties cost us, we cost ourselves, DF needs to have a long hard look at his tactics and substitutions, we had similar issues with another top manager not too long ago.
I don't mind calling players out so I won't stop now, bamford is f**king shite, rutter last night was abysmal, James was'nt at the races and why can't anyone other than Summerville try having a shot more often.
I didn't expect to be this far up the league when it started due to the behind the scenes stuff and the rats deserting, but, we've put ourselves into a fantastic position and it looks like we can't press on anymore, that's the frustrating part.
I suppose when you rely on the chump at CF week in week out, you get what you deserve, but us, the fans deserve so much better.
I read on here yesterday/Monday !! we won't win another game this season, maybe it was in jest, but if we don't beat Blackburn, would you bet against it !!
Last night we were poor again, I don't think the penalties cost us, we cost ourselves, DF needs to have a long hard look at his tactics and substitutions, we had similar issues with another top manager not too long ago.
I don't mind calling players out so I won't stop now, bamford is f**king shite, rutter last night was abysmal, James was'nt at the races and why can't anyone other than Summerville try having a shot more often.
I didn't expect to be this far up the league when it started due to the behind the scenes stuff and the rats deserting, but, we've put ourselves into a fantastic position and it looks like we can't press on anymore, that's the frustrating part.
I suppose when you rely on the chump at CF week in week out, you get what you deserve, but us, the fans deserve so much better.
I read on here yesterday/Monday !! we won't win another game this season, maybe it was in jest, but if we don't beat Blackburn, would you bet against it !!
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