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mentalcase wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:03 pm He wouldn't get our side.
Seriously, ho would you drop for him !!
Of course he would
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Seeing highlights, KP was really unlucky with that 2nd yellow.

Probably should have avoided the 1st yellow
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:14 pm Of course he would
For who !!
Not Ampadu,
Not Rodon
Not Gray
Not Kamara
Not Gruev
Where is he getting a place, even Firpo would be in front of Phillips.
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mentalcase wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:22 pm For who !!
Not Ampadu,
Not Rodon
Not Gray
Not Kamara
Not Gruev
Where is he getting a place, even Firpo would be in front of Phillips.
Well, he's not playing center back or left back

But he'd be first pick in midfield. Pick one other after that.
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Would make a good thread - who would see KP as a good signing if we go up and how much should we pay if you do want him back at Leeds.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:27 pm Well, he's not playing center back or left back

But he'd be first pick in midfield. Pick one other after that.
Midfield, he isn't even a midfielder, his best position is deep lying , just ahead of CH's, a position only one manager made for him because he was useless as a midfielder, I wouldn't put him ahead of Gray, Kmara or Gruev in midfield so who would you drop !!
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But let’s keep it on this thread.

For me it is a no brainer. If we could get him for no more than 25 mil I believe he would be a great signing. I do not subscribe to the suggestion that X is better because we haven’t seen them in the prem, which is a different level.

He is struggling currently because he has hardly played. Short memories for me when you consider how pivotal he was for us for at least the best part of three years.

The only concern I have surrounds his physical condition. If he is fit I would have him back in a heartbeat.
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DDB220 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:29 pm Would make a good thread - who would see KP as a good signing if we go up and how much should we pay if you do want him back at Leeds.
Only if 2 things happened.

1. Bert came back.
2. Leeds Utd play 4-1-4-1

I said yonks and yonks and yonks back, it is KP's ONLY role, and he's feckin good at it.

Anything or anywhere else, forget him.
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All about opinions which I read and respect, I just don't rate the fella, his days are gone, I can't see him enhancing our team, I'm not sentimental about his past with us, why don't we go for Raphina as well who's struggling !
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And if you're talking about putting him in DF's 4-2-3-1 i'd want him on a free and wouldn't pay £1m for him.
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mentalcase wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:36 pm All about opinions which I read and respect, I just don't rate the fella, his days are gone, I can't see him enhancing our team, I'm not sentimental about his past with us, why don't we go for Raphina as well who's struggling !
Now ya talkin.
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Kennyb41 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm Only if 2 things happened.

1. Bert came back.
2. Leeds Utd play 4-1-4-1

I said yonks and yonks and yonks back, it is KP's ONLY role, and he's feckin good at it.

Anything or anywhere else, forget him.
Depends - he has played decent in a double pivot for England before his injuries ( which is my biggest concern - his condition ) Farke has shown this season he can get the best out of players who were quickly dismissed as useless. KP’s experience and the fact he is a hometown lad should not be underestimated.
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Oh, and while i'm on it, i said "every single player will go backwards when Bert leaves them"

Only PB is doing ok, and yet to go into the Prem, and DF still has him in the same roll.
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DDB220 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:39 pm Depends - he has played decent in a double pivot for England before his injuries ( which is my biggest concern - his condition ) Farke has shown this season he can get the best out of players who were quickly dismissed as useless. KP’s experience and the fact he is a hometown lad should not be underestimated.
Tbh DDB that's for England and it should be a piece of piss for anybody in that role with who they have in front of them, you know my thoughts on GS, and let's not forget the shite England beat, but only to struggle against anyone half decent.
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DDB220 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:39 pm Depends - he has played decent in a double pivot for England before his injuries ( which is my biggest concern - his condition ) Farke has shown this season he can get the best out of players who were quickly dismissed as useless. KP’s experience and the fact he is a hometown lad should not be underestimated.
There is actually in Ampadu a player he might just marry to because he's also an excellent reader of the play, and Kamara might work against lesser teams that we could get him further up out of KP's way against.
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Perhaps sitting on the bench at Citeh wasn't such a bad idea after all 🤔
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mentalcase wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:22 pm For who !!
Not Ampadu,
Not Rodon
Not Gray
Not Kamara
Not Gruev
Where is he getting a place, even Firpo would be in front of Phillips.
You can't compare Championship v PL. We'd be relegated with most of those players.
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Kamara is decent at this level - there is a reason he hasn’t had a prem career after leaving Arsenal. No idea how Gruev will fare. Amps is quality so I have no concerns about him, similarly I think Archie can take the next step. Our squad is relatively young and lacks Prem experience. We have 19 players out of contract in the summer if you include Roberts and Rodon.
25 million for KP is a no brainer for me. I do not subscribe to the suggestion he can only play in a 4141. It may be his best role but I am confident after a few more games at Spam he will start to get his mojo back if he is fit.
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Pep did KP a disservice IMO. Why he let him languish on the sidelines is bizarre especially when Rodri was injured. He never got the mins to show what he can do. You only have to look at the lad he sold to Chelsea. (Name escapes me and I can’t be arsed to google) Pep has said he preferred two players ahead of him.
Let’s see how KP gets on when he gets some mins under his belt.
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Phillips is class, again a lot of Leeds fans clueless about rust, new team, different set up. Again most think form is the B all and end all, probably the same posters that wrote off Cry/Geo/Firpo/Gruev/Bamford/Gnonto etc etc ....
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