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Cjay wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:31 pm As someone we approached same time as Iraola but hasn't gone any further.

Wouldn't get to excited :)
I wasn't, and I'm not 8-)
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DDB220 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:29 pm Yes I agree. No more than the end of the season though - he isn’t the manager to build on if he managed to keep us up.
The fact is we need more than Skub and the other 2 to coach a squad properly
Because of Gerards playing career he will command respect from the players.

But it is an appointment that isn’t without risk of a fans backlash if doesn’t hit the ground running. No point appointing him before the Everton fixture as it will motivate them even more.
Oh I think he'd be an awful appointment (forgot to say that).

His record at Villa wasn't massively better than us with Marsch.

But you can smell the desperation at Elland Road now.

They know they can't leave poor Skubala to face Dyche in a vital game.

And Orta fanboying over Gerrard and selling him to the 49ers on his name value is 100% something I can see.
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Jaydog wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:32 pm What about Frankie Dettori innit.
He’s a nutter
Toby Balding :duno:
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Jaydog wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:40 pmReasons?
had no established system of play.
played his favorites no matter what form they were in
never connected with the fan base
cluelessly tactically
all about himself, it will now be "Stevie Gerrard's Leeds"
bought expensive players who are not that good
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White Riot wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:44 pm Toby Balding :duno:
We seem to like a baldy
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visitingvillan wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:48 pm had no established system of play.
played his favorites no matter what form they were in
never connected with the fan base
cluelessly tactically
all about himself, it will now be "Stevie Gerrard's Leeds"
bought expensive players who are not that good
But apart from that he was fine!
I do remember him being a bit me me me.
Just don’t like him at all not that that’s of any relevance
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visitingvillan wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:48 pm had no established system of play.
played his favorites no matter what form they were in
never connected with the fan base
cluelessly tactically
all about himself, it will now be "Stevie Gerrard's Leeds"
bought expensive players who are not that good
Selfish players rarely make great coaches do they? Not for me. Very little experience and what ever we may think of him (mings) it was piss poor management to hang him out to dry like that.
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No now we have dodged the dutch disaster it is back to dissing every one else.

Id have Gerrard in this particu;ar pickle we are in, but he would be a fool to come to Leeds
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Orta's spreadsheet get a lot of mention on here. Does anyone think the man makes rational decisions? He is a hothead as we have seen on many an occasion. In my opinion he just shoots from the hip and wants to make himself look clever.
Ratz/49ers need to take control and put him on litter picking duty at Thorpe Arch until he's paid back for JKA, Marsch, etc, etc, etc.
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Bill was bigging Skubs up in his post match interview so it looks like the players like his apporoach.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:03 pm No now we have dodged the dutch disaster it is back to dissing every one else.

Id have Gerrard in this particu;ar pickle we are in, but he would be a fool to come to Leeds
Dutch Disaster??? Liverpool disaster more likely judging by experience. He would have taken Villa down after spending a shed loads of money. No improvement on Dean Smith imo.
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Leeds1000 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:18 pm Dutch Disaster??? Liverpool disaster more likely judging by experience. He would have taken Villa down after spending a shed loads of money. No improvement on Dean Smith imo.
Im not advocating him too highly but his Prem stats were:

37 games
12 wins,
eight draws
17 losses.

Probably what we could be doing with at this point.

His Net spend over three transfer windows was £52.5 M

in

Diego Carlos - £27.9m
Lucas Digne - £27m
Philippe Coutinho - £18m
Leander Dendoncker - £13.5m
Robin Olsen - £3.15m
Ludwig Augustinsson - £450k loan fee
Boubacar Kamara - free transfer

Out

Carney Chukwuemeka - £16.2m
Matt Targett - £15.75m
Mahmoud Trezeguet - £3.6m
Anwar El Ghazi - £2.25m
Lovre Kalinic - free transfer
Conor Hourihane - free transfer
Jan Bednarek - free transfer
Calum Chambers - free transfer

Not that bad either.

I think if we got past our obvious bias towards so many easy targets we might actually give ourselves a chance.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:58 pm :lol:

Well if you have ever been to Elland Road you would agree that the stadium needs nuked!
No it doesn't.....some work needs doing yes but it doesn't need to be obliterated. Lots of happy memories for me in that lovely old stadium :)
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We may as well just leave Skubala in the job because going by many on here no other manager on the planet seems to be suitable.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:29 pm Im not advocating him too highly but his Prem stats were:

37 games
12 wins,
eight draws
17 losses.

Probably what we could be doing with at this point.

His Net spend over three transfer windows was £52.5 M

in

Diego Carlos - £27.9m
Lucas Digne - £27m
Philippe Coutinho - £18m
Leander Dendoncker - £13.5m
Robin Olsen - £3.15m
Ludwig Augustinsson - £450k loan fee
Boubacar Kamara - free transfer

Out

Carney Chukwuemeka - £16.2m
Matt Targett - £15.75m
Mahmoud Trezeguet - £3.6m
Anwar El Ghazi - £2.25m
Lovre Kalinic - free transfer
Conor Hourihane - free transfer
Jan Bednarek - free transfer
Calum Chambers - free transfer

Not that bad either.

I think if we got past our obvious bias towards so many easy targets we might actually give ourselves a chance.
I'm with the 50,000 Villains in believing he would have taken them down. Its Lampard Mk2. Get down the leagues and earn his stripes and i may take him seriously. Great player needs to prove he's a great coach. Rafa has atleast proved it countless times. If he gets the job i will support him even tho i don't believe he's earnt the right.
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Of all the names doing the rounds its Rafa for me and forget all this crap talk about his football being s**t and boring. He is the one who has great experience in this league and that is what we need right now. Skubala has done well after being dropped in at the deep end but his lack of experience might prove costly.
Contract to the end of the season for Rafa and a little bonus if he keeps us up. Then take the summer break to get things back on track.
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I won't be at all surprised if we get a manager and a coach from wolves and middlesboro respectively, we've had enough dross from both over t' last few years, why stop now !!
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Prisoner37 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:14 pm Bill was bigging Skubs up in his post match interview so it looks like the players like his apporoach.
God no. We need someone who will give them a rocket up the ass :roll: Prime Fergie type etc.
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mentalcase wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:48 pm I won't be at all surprised if we get a manager and a coach from wolves and middlesboro respectively, we've had enough dross from both over t' last few years, why stop now !!
I do rate Carrick tbh. But not now, maybe 18 months or so. After Rafa's done.
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SG90 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:54 pm I do rate Carrick tbh. But not now, maybe 18 months or so. After Rafa's done.
Atleast he's chose to do it the "hard" way. I thought Boro were a busted flush so credit to Carrick.
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