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Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:12 pm
by Fatter than brolin
Looking at our squad it's going to be a nightmare, thoughts
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:23 pm
by ceejaylufc
Me and my son were just talking about this. He thinks a striker should be brought in. He thinks Koch and Meslier will go. I think there are a couple of the new boys who need to play in the under 21’s - Rutter and Aaronson, Wober should be paid to stay !
I think Meslier and Gnonto will go (hope not but …..), Adams and McKennie will not stay, Cooper, for all his captain skills, should go. Bill hopefully will stay. Not sure about Roca though - over to everybody else
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:48 pm
by 1964white
ceejaylufc wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:23 pm
Me and my son were just talking about this. He thinks a striker should be brought in. He thinks Koch and Meslier will go. I think there are a couple of the new boys who need to play in the under 21’s - Rutter and Aaronson, Wober should be paid to stay !
I think Meslier and Gnonto will go (hope not but …..), Adams and McKennie will not stay, Cooper, for all his captain skills, should go. Bill hopefully will stay. Not sure about Roca though - over to everybody else
Welcome to MOT Ceejay
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:51 pm
by 1964white
I very much doubt we'll be in a position to retain :
Meslier
Kristensen
Koch
Wober
Firpo
Adams
McKennie
Roca
Aaronson
Harrison
Gnonto
Bamford
Rodrigo
Rutter
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:39 pm
by SG90
1964white wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:51 pm
I very much doubt we'll be in a position to retain :
Meslier
Kristensen
Koch
Wober
Firpo
Adams
McKennie
Roca
Aaronson
Harrison
Gnonto
Bamford
Rodrigo
Rutter
Swap Bamford for Sinisterra and I'd agree. No way anyone will want Bamford and Sini won't stay.
If all those players are too good for the Championship, it begs the question of why we went down?
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:52 am
by whiteswan
1964white wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:48 pm
Welcome to MOT Ceejay
.....sorry, but there can only be one Cjay.....
Re-name user name I think, so as not to cause confusion
But welcome....
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:59 am
by Finnatic
whiteswan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:52 am
.....sorry, but there can only be one Cjay.....
Re-name user name I think, so as not to cause confusion
But welcome....
This one is Emperor Ceejay not just any self titled rubbish old King
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:09 am
by 1964white
SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:39 pm
Swap Bamford for Sinisterra and I'd agree. No way anyone will want Bamford and Sini won't stay.
If all those players are too good for the Championship, it begs the question of why we went down?
We couldn't afford to retain Paddy on a 70k weekly salary.
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:54 am
by pjm2019
1964white wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:51 pm
I very much doubt we'll be in a position to retain :
Meslier
Kristensen
Koch
Wober
Firpo
Adams
McKennie
Roca
Aaronson
Harrison
Gnonto
Bamford
Rodrigo
Rutter
hard to say as i do not know the wages but i would guess the following
Meslier - Sold
Kristensen- Stay
Koch - Sold
Wober- Stay
Firpo- Sold
Adams- Stay
McKennie- returned as on loan
Roca- Stay
Aaronson- Stay
Harrison- Sold
Gnonto- Stay
Bamford- Sold
Rodrigo- Sold
Rutter- Stay
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:59 am
by The Subhuman
SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:39 pm
Swap Bamford for Sinisterra and I'd agree. No way anyone will want Bamford and Sini won't stay.
If all those players are too good for the Championship,
it begs the question of why we went down?
Easy one to answer, absolutely s**t manager
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:10 am
by The Subhuman
Same game we play every year, opinions usually massively off the mark... I mean Kalvin was gone 3 years in a row before he actually went!!
We'll be able to afford to run with most of the prem squad for at least one season, and I think we'd come straight back up. A judicious sale of two/three players to bolster the 140m we'll get in and then add a quality player or two.
We also have a lot of quality in the 21's to come through, the likes of Archie Gray, Gyabi, Dani van den Heuvel, Monteiro, Snowden (who looks class) Perkins and Fernandez, all of whom another year older
But feel free to keep churning out the negative threads, I guess "we" enjoy our misery here
ATM I'm not even contemplating relegation though
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:19 am
by SG90
1964white wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:09 am
We couldn't afford to retain Paddy on a 70k weekly salary.
But no one will want him.
I'd also add Cresswell and Archie Gray to the list of who we'd struggle to keep.
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:20 am
by SG90
faaip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:10 am
Same game we play every year, opinions usually massively off the mark... I mean Kalvin was gone 3 years in a row before he actually went!!
We'll be able to afford to run with most of the prem squad for at least one season, and I think we'd come straight back up. A judicious sale of two/three players to bolster the 140m we'll get in and then add a quality player or two.
We also have a lot of quality in the 21's to come through, the likes of Archie Gray, Gyabi, Dani van den Heuvel, Monteiro, Snowden (who looks class) Perkins and Fernandez, all of whom another year older
But feel free to keep churning out the negative threads, I guess "we" enjoy our misery here
ATM I'm not even contemplating relegation though
What £140m?
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:21 am
by wilsdenwhite
faaip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:59 am
Easy one to answer, absolutely s**t manager
With a smattering of poor recruitment perhaps?
Meanwhile Brentford's 2nd season syndrome sees them sat in 9th with a squad still full of Championship players who had to settle for promotion via the play-offs and have still never signed a player for anything over 20 million. When you look at how little they paid to build their current squad it's astonishing.
When you compare us to them it's easy to conclude we have been poorly managed in one way or another be that with the manager in the firing line or the board themselves.
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:24 am
by wilsdenwhite
1964white wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:51 pm
I very much doubt we'll be in a position to retain :
Meslier
Kristensen
Koch
Wober
Firpo
Adams
McKennie
Roca
Aaronson
Harrison
Gnonto
Bamford
Rodrigo
Rutter
If you'd have told me at Christmas we wouldn't have been in a position to retain Firpo if we go down..
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:24 am
by SG90
faaip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:59 am
Easy one to answer, absolutely s**t manager
What about the 18 games without him then?
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:25 am
by SG90
wilsdenwhite wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:24 am
If you'd have told me at Christmas we wouldn't have been in a position to retain Firpo if we go down..
It's more to do with wages than him being too good. The wage bill would absolutely cripple us, and with no parachute payments to help, we'd need the 49ers to keep us afloat basically.
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:38 am
by 1964white
pjm2019 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:54 am
hard to say as i do not know the wages but i would guess the following
Meslier - Sold
Kristensen- Stay
Koch - Sold
Wober- Stay
Firpo- Sold
Adams- Stay
McKennie- returned as on loan
Roca- Stay
Aaronson- Stay
Harrison- Sold
Gnonto- Stay
Bamford- Sold
Rodrigo- Sold
Rutter- Stay
Why would our expensive international signings want to ply their trade in the championship?
Every top PL club would have noticed the quality of Gnonto.
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:39 am
by SG90
1964white wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:38 am
Why would our expensive international signings want to ply their trade in the championship?
Every top PL club would have noticed the quality of Gnonto.
Yep. I think Gnonto, Koch and Meslier will be sold, even if we stay up.
Re: Who stays and who goes if we go down?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:41 am
by 1964white
wilsdenwhite wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:21 am
With a smattering of poor recruitment perhaps?
Meanwhile Brentford's 2nd season syndrome sees them sat in 9th with a squad still full of Championship players who had to settle for promotion via the play-offs and have still never signed a player for anything over 20 million. When you look at how little they paid to build their current squad it's astonishing.
When you compare us to them it's easy to conclude we have been poorly managed in one way or another be that with the manager in the firing line or the board themselves.
Same with Brighton & Fulham. proper scouting.
I'm hearing Chelsea have poached Brighton's chief scout, whether that will affect their future recruitment, who knows
