Of the views offered re Orta , I have to align myself with this one. Whilst recognising his commitment, personality and enthusiasm, I would find it a huge leap to suggest that his kudos and trajectory has been in the ascendency during his time at ER. IMO, there have been far more misses than hits, some spectacularly costly ones - which I feel could reasonably be attributed to a combination of poor judgement and overly generous, arguably irresponsible, up front financial commitment.Byebyegeegee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:36 am I think that certainly Radrizani deserves some credit for turning things around, let’s face it he could not possibly have been as bad as recent previous owners, but he was very green and naive when he 1st came in, appointing a string of astonishingly poor managers, but got right eventually, with the help of Orta I assume, by appointing Bielsa.
There is no doubt about Orta’s commitment to Leeds United and the binoculars thing at Derby was absolutely hilarious, but as far as I can see, the only plus points on his cv are Klich and Bielsa. All the others have either yet to be proven or have been complete disasters, wasting the club millions, culminating in the, possibly eyewateringly(is that even a word?) expensive JKA fiasco.
There is no doubt in my mind that 99% of the credit for the last two years should go to Marcelo Bielsa.
Cannot bring myself to even type JKA - so will leave this piece of spectacularly poor business to stand on its own merits. In relation to Costa and Harrison, I suggest that on the evidence to date, both have some way to go to cement their status as anything other than "half decent" signings". They have "had their day" at times, but are equally wasteful, poor finishers and blessed with a propensity for placing the final ball/cross anywhere other than where it was intended/needed. As a financial transaction, I feel that Costa's signing at this stage reflects far better on Wolves than Leeds United.
We must of course attribute praise to those who were instrumental in securing the services of Bielsa - and here, Orta deserves huge credit along with AR. Klich, I rate at the championship level. He has "done the business" more often than not - though we must naturally reserve definitive judgement until we witness whether he is capable of making the step up. Bamford, despite his 16 goals, frustrates me to the edge of apoplectic rage. Probably missed another 20 at least, and, IMO, almost single-handedly delayed our promotion celebrations. If he is indeed (which I suspect he will be) still leading our line and perpetuating his unconvincing portrayal of a proven goal scorer come September, and, further, if he is still being aided and abetted in his endeavours by Messrs Harrison and Costa - then I fear that my current euphoria could be acutely curtailed.
Of course, I sincerely hope that all three take the Premier League by storm that the two wide men break all "assist" records and that Bamford finishes with the Golden Boot. Sadly, I feel we need much better to make an impact - but have no problem with devouring huge portions of humble pie come next May/June/July/August/ September etc............... As for Mr Orta (have done better)? Jury still out for me. Needs to deliver in the next few weeks to get me fully on board.
