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Leeds1000 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:05 pm For me we need to start thinking of where our points are going to come from. After today i can't be sure... can you? On that specific performance we would be lucky to get anything against Norwich.
If we roll up at Norwich like that they will beat us easily, a League Two side would beat a team performing like that, Crawley did it in the Cup last season, we didn't even give them a match.
Against Southampton we still had several experienced players who are currently, or have, represented their national sides: Llorente, Cooper, Dallas, Klich, Rodrigo, so what did they offer in terms of leadership, or will to win? Zero, nothing. That was one gutless, spineless, abject performance.

Only teams that get relegated put in performances like that.

We can point to the absence of:
Ayling - he's been rank terrible so far this season, apart from that goal at OT
Koch - I don't think he plays ahead of Llorente anyway, he's a decent CB, but always injured
Firpo - looked a bit better recently, but still finding his feet and another one injured
Phillips - he's often unavailable, but at the moment is all we have in midfield, even when he played this season there were still gaping holes in center midfield
Raphinha - On of the best players in the world and often seems like our only creative forward. Why drag him to Southampton to watch that shower of :poo:
Bamford - he embarrasses Rodrigo and Roberts with his work ethic, finishing and physicality, can hold the ball and bring others in, always gives it his 100%

MB and these players need to put this right starting on Saturday, and that won't be easy against a Wolves side that has found fresh impetus with a new coach, and just won three on the bounce, the last of which was a rousing derby victory at Villa, they'll be on a real high.
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Irish Ian wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:52 pm Liam Cooper just claimed

In the second half we played well, but conceded on counter attack.

Only half true Liam
If Liam thinks that's playing well then we're in even bigger trouble than I thought :shock:

I've had the same feeling I had when we lost that match at Forest, but at least Ayling was visibly upset and put things right in the next match which I think was at Brentford.

Whoever pulls that shirt on this Saturday had better put everything out on the pitch, give us a performance, and put things right immediately.

I still think Cooper, and or Bielsa, should have apologized to our fans, especially the travelling fans, for a performance that I would never associate with a Leeds United shirt.
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White Riot wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:09 am If we roll up at Norwich like that they will beat us easily, a League Two side would beat a team performing like that, Crawley did it in the Cup last season, we didn't even give them a match.
Against Southampton we still had several experienced players who are currently, or have, represented their national sides: Llorente, Cooper, Dallas, Klich, Rodrigo, so what did they offer in terms of leadership, or will to win? Zero, nothing. That was one gutless, spineless, abject performance.

Only teams that get relegated put in performances like that.

We can point to the absence of:
Ayling - he's been rank terrible so far this season, apart from that goal at OT
Koch - I don't think he plays ahead of Llorente anyway, he's a decent CB, but always injured
Firpo - looked a bit better recently, but still finding his feet and another one injured
Phillips - he's often unavailable, but at the moment is all we have in midfield, even when he played this season there were still gaping holes in center midfield
Raphinha - On of the best players in the world and often seems like our only creative forward. Why drag him to Southampton to watch that shower of :poo:
Bamford - he embarrasses Rodrigo and Roberts with his work ethic, finishing and physicality, can hold the ball and bring others in, always gives it his 100%

MB and these players need to put this right starting on Saturday, and that won't be easy against a Wolves side that has found fresh impetus with a new coach, and just won three on the bounce, the last of which was a rousing derby victory at Villa, they'll be on a real high.
Good post riot
Regarding Wolves, let's hope that their comeback against Villa was their cup final and they think they only have to turn up at ER.

Wolves are one of our bogey teams :roll:
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White Riot wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:38 pm If Liam thinks that's playing well then we're in even bigger trouble than I thought :shock:

I've had the same feeling I had when we lost that match at Forest, but at least Ayling was visibly upset and put things right in the next match which I think was at Brentford.

Whoever pulls that shirt on this Saturday had better put everything out on the pitch, give us a performance, and put things right immediately.

I still think Cooper, and or Bielsa, should have apologized to our fans, especially the travelling fans, for a performance that I would never associate with a Leeds United shirt.
Our travelling fans should have been granted a refund, mate.
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whiteswan wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:09 pm Good post riot
Regarding Wolves, let's hope that their comeback against Villa was their cup final and they think they only have to turn up at ER.

Wolves are one of our bogey teams :roll:
Cheers Swannie, yeah seems like we don't have much luck against Wolves.

Whoever pulls the shirt on for us on Saturday needs to minimum show that they care and want to win, I didn't see any of that on Saturday.
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whiteswan wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:09 pm Wolves are one of our bogey teams :roll:
Lost our last five fixtures v Wolves, thumped twice & only scored once in those five matches.
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If I was in charge for the Wolves match...
I would put Harrison at LWB, and Shaks at RWB
James and Raph on the wings
whatever two CB's are fit preferably Llorente and Strujk
Kalvin in front of them
Klich and Greenwood
and Joffy up front

f**k knows if it would work, but can it be any worse than Saturday??
Hopelessly lost.................. But making good time
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hector wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:27 pm If I was in charge for the Wolves match...
I would put Harrison at LWB, and Shaks at RWB
James and Raph on the wings
whatever two CB's are fit preferably Llorente and Strujk
Kalvin in front of them
Klich and Greenwood
and Joffy up front

f**k knows if it would work, but can it be any worse than Saturday??
Blimey, a sensible football post from dear old Hector :lol:
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1964white wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:36 pm Blimey, a sensible football post from dear old Hector :lol:
He's been hacked :lol:
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1964white wrote: Lost our last five fixtures v Wolves, thumped twice & only scored once in those five matches.
And I don't hold much hope this week either no matter how many players we have returning Image

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whiteswan wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:38 pm He's been hacked :lol:
I'll hack the pair of you in minute :P :P

:evil:

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1964white wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:12 pm Our travelling fans should have been granted a refund, mate.
Yep, that would have been a good gesture :tup:
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hector wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:44 pm I'll hack the pair of you in minute :P :P

:evil:

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whiteswan wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:38 pm He's been hacked :lol:
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hector wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:44 pm I'll hack the pair of you in minute :P :P

:evil:

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Why, what we done? :whistle:

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Interesting Square Ball podcast, worth a listen.


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