When will Hockaday be sacked?

wiilko · Post by **wiilko** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:38 am

I don't understand this Hockaday criticism. I've endured the 'football' under Blackwell, Grayson, Warnock & McDermott and I'm sick of forking out money to watch a bunch of overpaid so called footballers who never should have been signed for our famous club.

McDermott was overpaid and cost the club millions in transfer and loan fees and he will always be remembered for signing the worst two wingers in the PL in Stewart & Kebe. I never thought that anyone could do worse than Warnock but McD managed that and still managed to gain favour with supporters by saying all the right words.

At the end of last season I had given up all hope of us ever being successful again.

We've had low periods in the 50s, early 60s & 80s but nothing like today.

Bates gave the club no hope by selling any quality players in his pursuit of building corporative facilities.

I really don't understand this fixation with managers. Any manager would be successful with quality players.

Revie, Shankly, Busby all needed quality players. Without them, they would never have been successful

Hockaday will live or die by the quality of players that Cellino signs

I've renewed my ST because Cellino gives us hope. It may be false hope but had GHF and McDermott still been there then I would not have renewed.

CardiffWhite · Post by **CardiffWhite** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:35 am

For me, I can't help but frame Hockaday's appointment in the context of Cellino getting through 36 coaches in 22 years. That is about 5 months per coach over the course of a season. That's what he does so Hockaday isn't going to last. There's obviously no long-term thinking regarding coaches. Cellino appears to have a track record of appointing the wrong person. Where's the continuity? What effect is that going to have on the players? It looks like Ross has already delivered his verdict.

Post by **1964white** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:11 am

wiilko wrote:I don't understand this Hockaday criticism. I've endured the 'football' under Blackwell, Grayson, Warnock & McDermott and I'm sick of forking out money to watch a bunch of overpaid so called footballers who never should have been signed for our famous club.

McDermott was overpaid and cost the club millions in transfer and loan fees and he will always be remembered for signing the worst two wingers in the PL in Stewart & Kebe. I never thought that anyone could do worse than Warnock but McD managed that and still managed to gain favour with supporters by saying all the right words.

At the end of last season I had given up all hope of us ever being successful again.

We've had low periods in the 50s, early 60s & 80s but nothing like today.

Bates gave the club no hope by selling any quality players in his pursuit of building corporative facilities.

I really don't understand this fixation with managers. Any manager would be successful with quality players.

Revie, Shankly, Busby all needed quality players. Without them, they would never have been successful

Hockaday will live or die by the quality of players that Cellino signs

I've renewed my ST because Cellino gives us hope. It may be false hope but had GHF and McDermott still been there then I would not have renewed.

Now now Wiilko don't be critising the fans favourite Brian McDermott

he was as bad as Warnock who got crucified by the egg lovers. Two of the worst seasons in LUFC history produced by two of our most feeble managers of all-time !

Us old-timers know the score

ldsutd · Post by **ldsutd** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:14 pm

I have to agree but for me last season was the worst regarding lack lustre performances and inept tactics that i had seen in over 25 years and that's saying something the players was woeful it was cringe worthy at times.
I just want to see a Leeds team that's willing to fight to the final whistle even if we are two down i want to see a team that's willing to kill there grandma for 3 points like the Leeds we all love come on El President and Hock give the fans something to be proud of again.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:49 pm

CardiffWhite wrote:For me, I can't help but frame Hockaday's appointment in the context of Cellino getting through 36 coaches in 22 years. That is about 5 months per coach over the course of a season. That's what he does so Hockaday isn't going to last. There's obviously no long-term thinking regarding coaches. Cellino appears to have a track record of appointing the wrong person. Where's the continuity? What effect is that going to have on the players? It looks like Ross has already delivered his verdict.

That's what concerns me; if we are to remain a club in turmoil no decent players will come here.

Maybe Hockaday is the new Mourinho and has somehow managed to get to the age of 56 without anyone noticing it. Or maybe he is just another on the conveyor belt of substandard coaches that Cellino appoints.

We will see fairly soon

The Subhuman · Post by **The Subhuman** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:20 pm

more likely to be the latter

becchio bear · Post by **becchio bear** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:38 pm

Guildford White wrote:
That's what concerns me; if we are to remain a club in turmoil no decent players will come here.

Maybe Hockaday is the new Mourinho and has somehow managed to get to the age of 56 without anyone noticing it. Or maybe he is just another on the conveyor belt of substandard coaches that Cellino appoints.

We will see fairly soon

As opposed to picking a manager from the merry go round of failed managers that most teams appoint?

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:21 am

This is just about the most half-hearted endorsement I have ever read, even less enthusiastic than several job references. Peter Taylor backs Hockaday

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:47 am

I think my original estimate of 22 Oct may have been too generous to Hockaday.

hibbi86 · Post by **hibbi86** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:03 am

i think he will make it till next year!

lufc1304 · Post by **lufc1304** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:41 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see Carbone in the dug-out come millwall, with Hockaday reduced to handing out the water bottles. I put little stock by friendly results but, from what Phil Hay tweeted last night, there was lots of running about with no direction or purpose. This does not bode well. Aligned with hockaday thinking we played well bar two individual errors, I can see a long and difficult season ahead whilst this tube is in charge of coaching

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:21 am

To be fair to him, Mansfield are a League 2 club - and by far the biggest club he has ever had to face as a coach.

Anyway, I see that LUTV have been listening to Condem politicians.

"..... hard working people....... dealing with the situation we inherited from the previous regime"

mav · Post by **mav** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:41 pm

hope he is not sacked, because that will mean he is successful.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:00 pm

Pardon?

Crude · Post by **Crude** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:46 pm

lufc1304 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Carbone in the dug-out come millwall, with Hockaday reduced to handing out the water bottles. I put little stock by friendly results but, from what Phil Hay tweeted last night, there was lots of running about with no direction or purpose. This does not bode well. Aligned with hockaday thinking we played well bar two individual errors, I can see a long and difficult season ahead whilst this tube is in charge of coaching

That has been the usual modus-operandi of the club for the last decade plus.

eastyorkshirewhite · Post by **eastyorkshirewhite** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:50 pm

You can get 3/1 on him been sacked after the Millwall game happy days.

Ronan · Post by **Ronan** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:59 pm

lufc1304 wrote: This does not bode well. I can see a long and difficult season ahead whilst this tube is in charge of coaching

tube – idiot “don’t be such a tube!”

He's doomed....the Ulster Way

Twiggster · Post by **Twiggster** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:17 pm

He needs sacking NOW! Just heard that Walters (who was started against Guiseley, despite having a knee injury), will now have to have a cartilage op....so that's his season screwed.

Why did hockaday start an injured player? Because he is a complete oaf and obviously not fit to be a coach.

Crude · Post by **Crude** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:31 pm

Twiggster wrote:He needs sacking NOW! Just heard that Walters (who was started against Guiseley, despite having a knee injury), will now have to have a cartilage op....so that's his season screwed.
Why did hockaday start an injured player? Because he is a complete oaf and obviously not fit to be a coach.

Walters could've hide the injury so to get into the side, like that has never happened before.

Genghers · Post by **Genghers** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:21 pm

Twiggster wrote:He needs sacking NOW! Just heard that Walters (who was started against Guiseley, despite having a knee injury), will now have to have a cartilage op....so that's his season screwed.
Why did hockaday start an injured player? Because he is a complete oaf and obviously not fit to be a coach.

Nobody ever mentioned his injury before the game, nobody said he was carrying a knock, so where have you got this info from?

As Crude says, players sometimes hide injuries (though not as often as they feign them!). Injuries happen. At least he didn't play him vs. Mansfield, that really would have been stupid.

I doubt Walters would have been part of the first team set up at any rate, hopefully he'll be mended up as soon as possible though.