The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 3rd Sept)

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning Everyone

Berardi left Elland Road on Friday Evening with his leg strapped up, and on crutches.

The Birthday boy turned up to his 30th Birthday party still wearing his kit he was wearing his kit, and sporting surgical bandiging around his right leg.

Looks like we have hit the international break at the right time.




One month in Leeds have won 4 and drawn 2. Berardi, Hernandez, Jansson and Coope have all picked up knocks during this time.

Are the players susceptible to injury having been trained so hard?

Will Bielsa regret not signing a centre back.




Steven Caulker is now a free agent. The 26yo have left Dundee. Surely its a no brainer...

[Dalton]

Morning all,

With the modern training methods, physio and all the warm down, ice baths and the like, no i do not believe it is the heavier training for fitness.
I think in the defences case, we have played hard to get where we are and Beradi in particular is throwing his whole body on the line to keep us there
Likewise Hernandez. Not getting any younger but the first team is largely the same as when the Heck was at the helm, so i guess something has to give
player wise.

I think we need a CB for sure. Wasnt impressed with Cooper at all Friday

[Ellandback1]

Morning all,

With the modern training methods, physio and all the warm down, ice baths and the like, no i do not believe it is the heavier training for fitness.
I think in the defences case, we have played hard to get where we are and Beradi in particular is throwing his whole body on the line to keep us there
Likewise Hernandez. Not getting any younger but the first team is largely the same as when the Heck was at the helm, so i guess something has to give
player wise.

I think we need a CB for sure. Wasnt impressed with Cooper at all Friday

Morning Dalton, I guess a lot of us are still very wary of Cooper due to the amount of errors he made last season. I see him in a different light this season.

[gessa]

Good Morning Everyone

Berardi left Elland Road on Friday Evening with his leg strapped up, and on crutches.

The Birthday boy turned up to his 30th Birthday party still wearing his kit he was wearing his kit, and sporting surgical bandiging around his right leg.

Looks like we have hit the international break at the right time.




One month in Leeds have won 4 and drawn 2. Berardi, Hernandez, Jansson and Coope have all picked up knocks during this time.

Are the players susceptible to injury having been trained so hard?

Will Bielsa regret not signing a centre back.




Steven Caulker is now a free agent. The 26yo have left Dundee. Surely its a no brainer...

I think we pick up our fair of injuries every season, nothing new this season, Cooper, Jansson and Berardi go in hard so pick them up, Hernandez Saiz etc get kicked a lot, no different than other teams players.

Been a much better start to the season than most of us envisaged, long may it continue, you need around 2 points per game to go up automatically, which shows we have a difficult job on our hands.

I do think we needed another CB, as well as another DM but who am I to question him.

[gessa]

I think we need a CB for sure. Wasnt impressed with Cooper at all Friday

Nor was I Dalton, very fortunate not to give away at least one penalty.

[Norm]

gessa wrote:


I think we pick up our fair of injuries every season, nothing new this season, Cooper, Jansson and Berardi go in hard so pick them up, Hernandez Saiz etc get kicked a lot, no different than other teams players.

Been a much better start to the season than most of us envisaged, long may it continue, you need around 2 points per game to go up automatically, which shows we have a difficult job on our hands.

I do think we needed another CB, as well as another DM but who am I to question him.

Just a supporter who pays his money to watch his team and also gives support to that same team in all kinds of almost intangible ways.
I would back this guy against most others but nobody's perfect. If Berra's half-crippled himself and Jansson's under-utilised whilst lesser people toil, certain lessons are maybe still there for the learning - or maybe not, I can't watch most games so can't honestly give an opinion.

[gessa]

Just a supporter who pays his money to watch his team and also gives support to that same team in all kinds of almost intangible ways.
I would back this guy against most others but nobody's perfect. If Berra's half-crippled himself and Jansson's under-utilised whilst lesser people toil, certain lessons are maybe still there for the learning - or maybe not, I can't watch most games so can't honestly give an opinion.

For what it's worth Norm, I think he's made a big mistake. Hopefully it doesn't come back to haunt him.

[lufc1304]

Not seen anything official regarding Berardi, so hopefully the strapping and crutches were just a precaution. Hope so; he's had his moments but, generally, he's been terrific so far this season.

Didn't expect us to start so well, tbh, gotta be happy with 14 from 18.

Injuries happen, Matt, we had our fair share last season when we weren't playing Bielsa-ball.

I too think we needed another CB and DM, but it didn't happen. Bielsa sees it differently and he's the one where the buck stops. Maybe there are young players already here who he believes can make the step up? I just hope his faith in what we currently have doesn't come back to bite him on the arse later in the season.

[The Subhuman]

What we don't know is if he's working his magic the level down too. He may know how close to first team action the likes of Rey, Shaughnessy are, and others...

[lufc1304]

What we don't know is if he's working his magic the level down too. He may know how close to first team action the likes of Rey, Shaughnessy are, and others...

That's where I was coming from, faaip, he doesn't strike me as the sort of coach who settles for second best. I hope he's right, as a solid platform at the back is the enabler for the high press. Shaughnessy was rusty the other night, but I think Bielsa likes the fact that he's comfortable with the ball at his feet. If he can get to grips with the CH role, then maybe he's the cover we need there? Lots of ifs and buts, but we have to put our faith in the man on the bucket

[Dalton]

If Shaughnessy is a decent prospect i would put him ahead of Cooper and have a Pontus/Beradi pairing

Keep with the current team and use the quick young players to come off the bench. I thought he left the subs a bit late on Friday but may be he liked a point from the game

[gessa]

Halme plays for the U23's today, could he be the one MB is waiting for, highly regarded.

[Richard]

Afternoon all

[gessa]

Afternoon all

Hi Rich.
How you doing mate.
More relaxed on here for you than elsewhere atm.

[The Subhuman]

oh do tell

[SG90]

I would have liked a CB, but tbh based on how we play it's the attacking players who do most of the work, so I understand why we focused on improving our attacking options instead.

Bielsa likes to play the likes of Phillips and Forshaw there as well, plus Halme is coming back to fitness as another option. I can't remember if he was bought for u23 or for the first team though.

Injuries are a pain, but we've already lost Jansson, Cooper, Berardi, Dallas, Forshaw and Pablo and are top. Rather lose them now than at Christmas.

[weasel]

I would have liked a CB, but tbh based on how we play it's the attacking players who do most of the work, so I understand why we focused on improving our attacking options instead.

Bielsa likes to play the likes of Phillips and Forshaw there as well, plus Halme is coming back to fitness as another option. I can't remember if he was bought for u23 or for the first team though.

Injuries are a pain, but we've already lost Jansson, Cooper, Berardi, Dallas, Forshaw and Pablo and are top. Rather lose them now than at Christmas.

Halme was an interesting signing as we paid a decent fee for him and he was playing at a reasonable level so it looked like he was probably bought to initially play U23 but would then be first choice back up if Cooper or PJ got injured/suspended.

[BobHirst]

All of us 'experts' can't understand why we haven't gone out and got a good CB. Bielsa has seen all the players and he must have decided that we already have the players available to do the job. I suppose we have to trust him and hope he has got it right.

[Richard]

Hi Rich.
How you doing mate.
More relaxed on here for you than elsewhere atm.

Hi Pal

Sorry I missed this one, all is calm at both my guilty pleasures at the moment

[gessa]

Hi Pal

Sorry I missed this one, all is calm at both my guilty pleasures at the moment

Nice one Rich, see the waters have settled there.