WORLD CUP progress
Forum rules
Please be sure you are acquainted with the forum rules outlined within our FAQs.
Help support the site by using our Amazon Affiliate link when making any purchases from Amazon.
Please be sure you are acquainted with the forum rules outlined within our FAQs.
Help support the site by using our Amazon Affiliate link when making any purchases from Amazon.
WORLD CUP progress
So Germany lose and Argentina/Brazil draw!
Exciting tournament so far.
Exciting tournament so far.
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Apart from being £200 down backing Ger/Arg/Brazil... Its been great
Anyhoos Mexico beating the Germs worra shame
Spain v Ronaldo best opening game I've ever seen Norm
When England go out its always Brazil for me..
Even got a dodgy Brazil top from primark.
Anyhoos Mexico beating the Germs worra shame
Spain v Ronaldo best opening game I've ever seen Norm
When England go out its always Brazil for me..
Even got a dodgy Brazil top from primark.
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Ps
The only time I ever heard my gran swear in her 93 years"Germans rotting SODS"
Mind me grandad said square heed bastards more than once
The only time I ever heard my gran swear in her 93 years"Germans rotting SODS"
Mind me grandad said square heed bastards more than once
-
- Guest
Re: WORLD CUP progress
No there isn't a clear favourite Ges although I think the two most impressive teams we've seen came from the best game of the tournament Spain & Portugal
France, Brazil, Germany & Argentina have all been disappointing imo !
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Have you been on your hols Liggy
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Mind you, a reasonably good opener for England - Harry Kane on form.
Sorry about your bet liggy.
Sorry about your bet liggy.
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Argentina almost bow out of WC18. Messi is a brilliant, skilful player, but he doesn't seem to have, at international level, the wherewithal to take a game by the scruff of the neck and win a game for his country, like Ronaldo, Maradona, Pele, Puskas or Cruyff. I'm sorry to say this, but in my honest opinion he is not the best player in the world because he cannot muster up that extra dimension to his game. If anyone gets the chance to watch Maradona in 1986 you'll get the point - at times he seems to be the only player on the pitch, forcing the win by his sheer willpower and intense effort. Ronaldo, against Spain - the same thing. Hell, I don't even like Ronaldo but kudos to his effort and will. That final goal against Spain was magic.
In fairness, the manager screwed up when he took Aguero off, so Messi was left a bit in limbo, but he just seems to wilt, whereas Maradona found an extra dimension and made sure of the win. There truly needs to be an international component for a person to be considered the best in the world and he doesn't have it (yet anyway) - just my opinion for what it's worth.
That said, I'd rather learn Spanish to be able to have a conversation and a pint with Lionel than just about any other footballer - I like him and his humanity immensely.
In fairness, the manager screwed up when he took Aguero off, so Messi was left a bit in limbo, but he just seems to wilt, whereas Maradona found an extra dimension and made sure of the win. There truly needs to be an international component for a person to be considered the best in the world and he doesn't have it (yet anyway) - just my opinion for what it's worth.
That said, I'd rather learn Spanish to be able to have a conversation and a pint with Lionel than just about any other footballer - I like him and his humanity immensely.
-
- Guest
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Watching the game last night, the same thoughts came to mind Norm.Norm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:36 am Argentina almost bow out of WC18. Messi is a brilliant, skilful player, but he doesn't seem to have, at international level, the wherewithal to take a game by the scruff of the neck and win a game for his country, like Ronaldo, Maradona, Pele, Puskas or Cruyff. I'm sorry to say this, but in my honest opinion he is not the best player in the world because he cannot muster up that extra dimension to his game. If anyone gets the chance to watch Maradona in 1986 you'll get the point - at times he seems to be the only player on the pitch, forcing the win by his sheer willpower and intense effort. Ronaldo, against Spain - the same thing. Hell, I don't even like Ronaldo but kudos to his effort and will. That final goal against Spain was magic.
In fairness, the manager screwed up when he took Aguero off, so Messi was left a bit in limbo, but he just seems to wilt, whereas Maradona found an extra dimension and made sure of the win. There truly needs to be an international component for a person to be considered the best in the world and he doesn't have it (yet anyway) - just my opinion for what it's worth.
Re: WORLD CUP progress
It's such a bloody shame Ges - the man's a genius but he can't seem to make it at international level.gessa wrote:
Watching the game last night, the same thoughts came to mind Norm.
To give the man his due, he resigned from the Argentine team but came back anyway.
There can be no greater demonstration of his wish to help his country but he just doesn't have the fierceness to take that final step.
-
- Guest
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Norm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:26 am It's such a bloody shame Ges - the man's a genius but he can't seem to make it at international level.
To give the man his due, he resigned from the Argentine team but came back anyway.
There can be no greater demonstration of his wish to help his country but he just doesn't have the fierceness to take that final step.
It looked a half hearted performance, frustrated with what was around him, which shouldn't be the case with some of the players they have.
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Couldn't agree more NormNorm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:36 am Argentina almost bow out of WC18. Messi is a brilliant, skilful player, but he doesn't seem to have, at international level, the wherewithal to take a game by the scruff of the neck and win a game for his country, like Ronaldo, Maradona, Pele, Puskas or Cruyff. I'm sorry to say this, but in my honest opinion he is not the best player in the world because he cannot muster up that extra dimension to his game. If anyone gets the chance to watch Maradona in 1986 you'll get the point - at times he seems to be the only player on the pitch, forcing the win by his sheer willpower and intense effort. Ronaldo, against Spain - the same thing. Hell, I don't even like Ronaldo but kudos to his effort and will. That final goal against Spain was magic.
In fairness, the manager screwed up when he took Aguero off, so Messi was left a bit in limbo, but he just seems to wilt, whereas Maradona found an extra dimension and made sure of the win. There truly needs to be an international component for a person to be considered the best in the world and he doesn't have it (yet anyway) - just my opinion for what it's worth.
That said, I'd rather learn Spanish to be able to have a conversation and a pint with Lionel than just about any other footballer - I like him and his humanity immensely.
Add Gerd Muller to your list who won WC/Euro tournaments for their countries something that has eluded Messi in his career. Muller was unbelievably prolific for the Germans in the 60's/70's. Brilliant as Messi is I still think he is overrated in comparison to the other world greats
Re: WORLD CUP progress
True about Gerd Muller Leon - an unbelievable thorn in the side of every other country and team, especially against us in 1975.1964white wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:36 pm
Add Gerd Muller to your list who win WC/Euro tournaments for their countries something that has eluded Messi in his career. Muller was unbelievably prolific for the Germans in the 60's/70's. Brilliant as Messi is I still think he is overrated in comparison to the other world greats
Thighs like tree trunks and could not be knocked off the ball.
- The Subhuman
- Superstar
- Posts: 56686
- Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
- Location: God's own county
Re: WORLD CUP progress
1975?
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
Re: WORLD CUP progress
WACCOE
- The Subhuman
- Superstar
- Posts: 56686
- Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
- Location: God's own county
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Ahh understood, was thinking International not club level
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
Re: WORLD CUP progress
Just googled, Muller scored 68 goals in 62 matches between 1966 & 1974 for West Germany
Phenomenal record !
Re: WORLD CUP progress
England 6-1.
Satisfactory I'd say.
Satisfactory I'd say.
Re: WORLD CUP progress
I turned the TV off after the 2nd goal...hate one sided matches....tbh I don't mind England... it's the commentators that do my head in.
Most plagiarists, like the drone, have neither taste to select, industry to acquire, nor skill to improve, but impudently pilfer the honey ready prepared, from the hive......