Wilfried Gnonto

[The Subhuman]

I'm OK if he still plays for us. He is a great talent. Too good for the championship.

But there's still lingering resentment at how he handled things at the start of last season. And it seems his allegiance is more to his buddy Summerville than the club. If Summerville goes, I can see Willy kicking a fuss again.

Great player, probably the most complete we have.. Hope he stays and very very difficult to replace..

[The Subhuman]

That's kind of what we've expected since the Wembley defeat. Archie was the surprise. But always expected us to be building a squad without Gnonto and Summerville. And in Dan James, we have a straight replacement for one of them.

James is a down grade on Willy for me, he has pace to burn though.

[mentalcase]

That's kind of what we've expected since the Wembley defeat. Archie was the surprise. But always expected us to be building a squad without Gnonto and Summerville. And in Dan James, we have a straight replacement for one of them.

Gnonto has done the square root of nothing so far , he's an awful lot to prove to live up to all the hype.

[Cjay]

That's kind of what we've expected since the Wembley defeat. Archie was the surprise. But always expected us to be building a squad without Gnonto and Summerville. And in Dan James, we have a straight replacement for one of them.

Disappointingly expected.

But losing Summerville, Gnonto and Gray in the same window would show how vital getting promoted was last season.

Atm it does seem like we are in a massive scramble to cut costs and bring in money.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Disappointingly expected.

But losing Summerville, Gnonto and Gray in the same window would show how vital getting promoted was last season.

Atm it does seem like we are in a massive scramble to cut costs and bring in money.

I've always put Summerville and Gnonto down as wanting to leave if we didn't get promoted. That is, even if we had the money, we couldn't hang onto them. It's understandable. Both are on the cusp of international call ups and are probably missing out due to playing in the championship. Maybe neither was ready for the Euros. But they'll expect to be part of the next 2 years towards the world cup. So, my assumption about losing those two was always about the players wanting to leave. And both would make good business sense for the club.

This is the Gnonto thread, so I'll leave Archie out of the discussion.

[Irish Ian]

Expected, but I cant see us letting him go for anything south of £20M..

Pity if he leaves as his goals and assists brought some vital wins last time.

I am well over his melt down last summer, he was man enough to face up to his error.

Some fans treat the players like employees but seem to expect them to behave like fans...

Puzzling.

Let's hope the money is used wisely.

[Kennyb41]

Great player, probably the most complete we have.. Hope he stays and very very difficult to replace..

How high is your bar ?

[Kennyb41]

Great player, probably the most complete we have.. Hope he stays and very very difficult to replace..

Yip, sooooooooooooooooooooo difficult that.......we needn't even bother looking, as they're currently in house.

And better to boot.

[Kennyb41]

James is a down grade on Willy for me, he has pace to burn though.

Much more potential upside in James.

DJ is less of a gobshite.

Knuckles down and gets on with his role.

Refuses to throw his hands up in the air at teammates/refs and any other fecker that'll listen.

And definitely doesn't come across as a jumped up little git.

[Kennyb41]

Disappointingly expected.

But losing Summerville, Gnonto and Gray in the same window would show how vital getting promoted was last season.

Atm it does seem like we are in a massive scramble to cut costs and bring in money.

No it doesn't at all, we are getting our house in order from the ground up after it was raised to the ground by Clown A.

It is a common sense/business minded re-construction.

[Kennyb41]

If any of these so called superstars know what's good for them, they'll step back, weigh up who owns us, weigh up who's invested in us

And if they've any sense try and weigh up whether our club might be bigger than EFC, Forest, Palace etc if we happen to get promoted.

[Cjay]

No it doesn't at all, we are getting our house in order from the ground up after it was raised to the ground by Clown A.

It is a common sense/business minded re-construction.

In football terms it's losing a heck of a lot of players who will need replacing.

You have a lot of faith in an American Venture Capital fund?

Do you really believe they handed Radz a cheque and left him and Orta to run the show without being massively involved in everything?

That isn't what VC funds do, these lot should be treated with the same caution as every other owner especially when they are flogging our players.

Until of course they prove differently

[weasel]

In football terms it's losing a heck of a lot of players who will need replacing.

You have a lot of faith in an American Venture Capital fund?

Do you really believe they handed Radz a cheque and left him and Orta to run the show without being massively involved in everything?

That isn't what VC funds do, these lot should be treated with the same caution as every other owner especially when they are flogging our players.

Until of course they prove differently

At present I would say there is no real reason to doubt them. Their aim, and ours, is ultimately the same and that is to get us promoted. There would only be a trickle of profit in selling players compared to the increase in value of the club once it is in the premier league. FFP makes it harder for them to blow the competition out of the water or alternatively makes it easier to run it as a business where they don't have to invest loads.

However last season we saw fairly minimal sales - albeit hampered by the loan clauses - and a decent level of investment in players, Piroe, Ampadu, Gruev and Kamara. I would expect similar this season. I still expect Summerville and Gnonto to leave and understand Gray leaving. We have brought in Rodon, for £10m, where we could easily have gone down the loan route, so I see them as being happy to invest if the player and price, and need, is right.

[Kennyb41]

At present I would say there is no real reason to doubt them. Their aim, and ours, is ultimately the same and that is to get us promoted. There would only be a trickle of profit in selling players compared to the increase in value of the club once it is in the premier league. FFP makes it harder for them to blow the competition out of the water or alternatively makes it easier to run it as a business where they don't have to invest loads.

However last season we saw fairly minimal sales - albeit hampered by the loan clauses - and a decent level of investment in players, Piroe, Ampadu, Gruev and Kamara. I would expect similar this season. I still expect Summerville and Gnonto to leave and understand Gray leaving. We have brought in Rodon, for £10m, where we could easily have gone down the loan route, so I see them as being happy to invest if the player and price, and need, is right.

We are taking a common-sense approach to everything, the 49ers are going nowhere for now, they will build the club up and then probably put it to their investors, that, is a long way off, 5 years at least.

Every single bit of business i'm seeing atm makes perfect sense moving forward, it is 1 rung at a time, not every rung will be perfect, making a good team can take time and mistakes, we don't want the mistakes to be too costly.

We are currently a small club in terms of league position, we won't attract the highest paid players yet, he is building off the best scraps and hopefully what talent he can uncover.

Rodon and Piroe show good statements of intent, Piroes lack of speed for a lone role means he might not work out, if we don't lose money on him, consider it a trial and error, if we make money, then excellent.

He is building his team, after an excellent clear out and make do and mend with what he inherited.

Unlike some, i am in no rush to then get it all wrong and someone have to start again. I can see the right strides are taking place and shape.

DF has a full grip on the situation now, i feel he is in full control, but still has 1 hand tied dealing with the Rasmus's etc.
If the season started tomorrow, we would be ok to go, not ideal, but ok.

There is plenty of time left for deals, he will have No.1 targets, but we may have to settle for No.3 for a number of reasons.

We are in a better place atm heading into our first game than last year, and it should improve.

[Kennyb41]

In football terms it's losing a heck of a lot of players who will need replacing.

You have a lot of faith in an American Venture Capital fund?

Do you really believe they handed Radz a cheque and left him and Orta to run the show without being massively involved in everything?

That isn't what VC funds do, these lot should be treated with the same caution as every other owner especially when they are flogging our players.

Until of course they prove differently

Jesus Christ, you don't half take things to the extreme

When you've finished with it, pass us your crystal ball, and how you reach your conclusions.

[Kennyb41]

And yes I do have some faith in the 49ers atm, i feel it will lead us to a better place, what they do then, i don't know.

[Cjay]

Reports Everton are exploring other targets as they are unable to reach our valuation of Gnonto.

[Pullhard]

Reports Everton are exploring other targets as they are unable to reach our valuation of Gnonto.

Seems like we have some people who can negotiate and hold firm ..... that change is long overdue

[Madron]

Reports Everton are exploring other targets as they are unable to reach our valuation of Gnonto.

Why aren't they trying for DJ then?

[The Subhuman]

Reports Everton are exploring other targets as they are unable to reach our valuation of Gnonto.

Surprised if they could meet the valuation of a new tea lady tbh