It isn't hindsight.faaip wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:02 pm So we can assume all posts on the transfer thread are uninformed nonsense? Also s**t happens when buying players, you're using hindsight to condemn Orta who has generally done great work plus Bielsa would have approved the signing, may even been high up his list. JKA was very highly rated before he came here.
Orta is batting around .750 and that's very decent.
Fans got excited about a relatively big name player,that's normal.
Fans also expressed concern about his reputation.
Orta has said in the past that a players mentality and professionalism plays a huge part in our targets.
JKA had a long history of unprofessionalism and discipline and fitness issues.
To the point previous coaches had criticised him publicly.
The biggest red flag for me was Ralf Rangnick, Manure aside he is very similar to Bielsa.
An innovative tactician who demands total commitment and high levels of fitness in his players. He basically kicked JKA out and criticised his mentality, fitness and all sorts.
If a coach as close to Bielsa as Rangnick says that that should remove him from any potential transfer lists Orta makes
That isn't a concern that is a cross, a red flag,a no go. Orta should never have presented him to Bielsa as an option.
None of this was hindsight it was mentioned in the JKA thread and Orta should have known this, if he did and choose to ignore it then that is on him again and because of this we have seen our reputation damaged in the football World (you think any club will do a loan with an option or obligation to buy again)
It has seen us try to use a pandemic where millions have died as a get out clause, so it's totally morally wrong.
And it is now absolutely 100%hindering us in our pursuit of our transfer target (no way it isn't impacting our Brenden Aaronson transfer).
This isn't a transfer gone bad, that happens.
This is a transfer gone catastrophic, that isn't normal, only 1 other case like it that anyone can think of and guess what, the buying club lost and ended up paying twice what the original fee was in total.
No way Orta fan be absolved of blame for this imo and its madness to try to.