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Kennyb41 wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:52 pm I can't see him being a regular starter myself once he makes his team.
I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:03 pm I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
He will need resting due to his age, and youngsters do need protecting, but this kid is the best youngster to come along in a long time.

As for Jamie, he’s all heart, effort and passion. He’s perhaps a bit limited in ability, but the crowd will forgive most things if you give your all.
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:03 pm I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
Put a real shift in Shacks, kept it relatively simple on the ball (probably reflecting his own technical shortcomings).

Did himself proud and put his case across for being part of the squad.

That being said he isn't likely to provide much creatively or in terms of goals.

He created no chances despite his attacking position.

Decent squad player perhaps.

But very limited in what he can do offensively

We need better to start.
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:03 pm I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
His experience and fitness should make him available for a lot of minutes
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Cjay wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:59 pm Put a real shift in Shacks, kept it relatively simple on the ball (probably reflecting his own technical shortcomings).

Did himself proud and put his case across for being part of the squad.

That being said he isn't likely to provide much creatively or in terms of goals.

He created no chances despite his attacking position.

Decent squad player perhaps.

But very limited in what he can do offensively

We need better to start.
Does hitting the post not constitute creating a chance? I'd say it's as close as you can get without actually scoring
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West Brom (h)

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4 runs
4 decent pass
3 ball recoveries
2 excellent passes
1 interception
1 shot hit the woodwork
1 tackle
1 defensive clearance

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1 poor pass

Lively & energetic, another improved performance

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Irish Ian wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:24 am Jamie could be our next Stuart Dallas, definitely useful as a utility player.
Can even do a job on the wing due to his explosive nature.

Defo a handy player to have around.
Just thought I would promote my obvious insight into said player.
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Irish Ian wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:12 pm Just thought I would promote my obvious insight into said player.

Really useful to have players like Shack around. Steady and can cover plenty of different positions.
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Thank God Orta wasn't allowed to give him away to Millwank for nothing. I a!ways felt he was very underrated and had good technical ability to his game. Out of contract in 2024, so he needs an extension.
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SG90 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:33 pm Thank God Orta wasn't allowed to give him away to Millwank for nothing. I a!ways felt he was very underrated and had good technical ability to his game. Out of contract in 2024, so he needs an extension.
Big time. Was full of energy when he came on.
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SG90 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:33 pm Thank God Orta wasn't allowed to give him away to Millwank for nothing. I a!ways felt he was very underrated and had good technical ability to his game. Out of contract in 2024, so he needs an extension.
It is only because Millwall didn't exercise the option they had to buy him. Orta tried his best to give him away. I wouldn't imagine we'd set a high asking price given our negotiating skills.
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weasel wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:09 pm It is only because Millwall didn't exercise the option they had to buy him. Orta tried his best to give him away. I wouldn't imagine we'd set a high asking price given our negotiating skills.
Our board was delusional.

Thought we'd moved on from players like Shackleton. Brought in Roca and McKennie instead. It's fine shopping around Europe for quality additions. But players with a heart and passion for their own club should always be worth a place in the squad.
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Always liked him and thought he had potential. Really pleased to see him finding a role in the squad again.
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Jaydog wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:36 pm Big time. Was full of energy when he came on.
I was shocked Shacks didn't start the game. :shock:
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1964white wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:31 pm I was shocked Shacks didn't start the game. :shock:
Agreed. Was absolutely superb second half.
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I said it somewhere. Jamie Shackleton is the most valuable player on our bench right now. A veritable Swiss Army Knife of a player. Just plug and play with this lad. SO glad we didn't sell him off cheap!!
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:38 am I said it somewhere. Jamie Shackleton is the most valuable player on our bench right now. A veritable Swiss Army Knife of a player. Just plug and play with this lad. SO glad we didn't sell him off cheap!!
I'd honestly be fine with three or four more just like him--constant engine, unafraid, competent and adaptable. Given our injury proneness, and the length and physicality of the championship season, we could do much worse than several more of him to plug and play as needed.
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The pass to Sinisterra for his goal was inch perfectly weighted and directed and reminiscent of Pablo at his best. He’s started the season brilliantly, I hope he keeps this standard going.
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1964white wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:31 pm I was shocked Shacks didn't start the game. :shock:
Where would you have played him though?

We began the game with our strongest 11
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1964white wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:31 pm I was shocked Shacks didn't start the game. :shock:
Who would he have started for?
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