I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
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He will need resting due to his age, and youngsters do need protecting, but this kid is the best youngster to come along in a long time.weasel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:03 pm I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
As for Jamie, he’s all heart, effort and passion. He’s perhaps a bit limited in ability, but the crowd will forgive most things if you give your all.
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Put a real shift in Shacks, kept it relatively simple on the ball (probably reflecting his own technical shortcomings).weasel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:03 pm I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
Did himself proud and put his case across for being part of the squad.
That being said he isn't likely to provide much creatively or in terms of goals.
He created no chances despite his attacking position.
Decent squad player perhaps.
But very limited in what he can do offensively
We need better to start.
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His experience and fitness should make him available for a lot of minutesweasel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:03 pm I can see Shackleton as being the calm in a storm of attacking play - a bit like how Klich was in Bielsa's side. Just keeping things neat and tidy , not catching the eye but quietly pulling the strings, taking the ball, passing it and weighing in with a few goals and assists too. I think it more likely that he will play more games than Gray, that is not me saying he is a better player or that Gray won't go on to have the better career but because Gray will need to managed correctly, rested at times and is also more likley to have bigs up and downs in form.
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Does hitting the post not constitute creating a chance? I'd say it's as close as you can get without actually scoringCjay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:59 pm Put a real shift in Shacks, kept it relatively simple on the ball (probably reflecting his own technical shortcomings).
Did himself proud and put his case across for being part of the squad.
That being said he isn't likely to provide much creatively or in terms of goals.
He created no chances despite his attacking position.
Decent squad player perhaps.
But very limited in what he can do offensively
We need better to start.
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West Brom (h)
Good
4 runs
4 decent pass
3 ball recoveries
2 excellent passes
1 interception
1 shot hit the woodwork
1 tackle
1 defensive clearance
Bad
1 poor pass
Lively & energetic, another improved performance
8/10
Good
4 runs
4 decent pass
3 ball recoveries
2 excellent passes
1 interception
1 shot hit the woodwork
1 tackle
1 defensive clearance
Bad
1 poor pass
Lively & energetic, another improved performance
8/10
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Just thought I would promote my obvious insight into said player.
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"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
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Thank God Orta wasn't allowed to give him away to Millwank for nothing. I a!ways felt he was very underrated and had good technical ability to his game. Out of contract in 2024, so he needs an extension.
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It is only because Millwall didn't exercise the option they had to buy him. Orta tried his best to give him away. I wouldn't imagine we'd set a high asking price given our negotiating skills.
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Our board was delusional.
Thought we'd moved on from players like Shackleton. Brought in Roca and McKennie instead. It's fine shopping around Europe for quality additions. But players with a heart and passion for their own club should always be worth a place in the squad.
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Always liked him and thought he had potential. Really pleased to see him finding a role in the squad again.
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I said it somewhere. Jamie Shackleton is the most valuable player on our bench right now. A veritable Swiss Army Knife of a player. Just plug and play with this lad. SO glad we didn't sell him off cheap!!
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I'd honestly be fine with three or four more just like him--constant engine, unafraid, competent and adaptable. Given our injury proneness, and the length and physicality of the championship season, we could do much worse than several more of him to plug and play as needed.BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:38 am I said it somewhere. Jamie Shackleton is the most valuable player on our bench right now. A veritable Swiss Army Knife of a player. Just plug and play with this lad. SO glad we didn't sell him off cheap!!
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The pass to Sinisterra for his goal was inch perfectly weighted and directed and reminiscent of Pablo at his best. He’s started the season brilliantly, I hope he keeps this standard going.
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Where would you have played him though?
We began the game with our strongest 11
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"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
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Who would he have started for?
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