Jack Harrison

[Cjay]

So it sounds like we were trying to make a deal for Zanilo. When that didn't work they called back Harrison. I'm guessing.

Would seem likely.

Or they just wanted to make some money back?

It's not a great way to treat a player either way.

[Cjay]

Am guessing then that if we'd agreed a deal with Roma for their fella we'd have let Harrison go. Am glad we didn't as I am a big fan of Harrison.

Would imagine if Roma had have agreed to our terms Harrison definitely goes

Does reinforce my belief that deep down Marsch doesn't want Harrison (winger doesn't fit his style) hence why it was the 2 wingers James and Harrison who were on the chopping block last 2 windows

[Cjay]

This also creates bigger issues.

The club were clearly more than willing to let Harrison go at one point. Hardly makes him feel wanted

Also as Phil says Leicester have a higher wage ceiling than us and he was likely in for a long term contract (possibly up until 2029) and a significant wage rise.

Leicester have quite a few players on £100k a week plus.

For us it's said only Rodrigo and Bamford are near the £100k mark.

So what Leicester consider a fairly reasonable salary to us is probably top earner level.

Has Harrison earned that level of wage here? Probably not.

But why would he accept less?

[whiteswan]

Actually got as close to leaving as travelling down to Leicester and starting a medical

Then we changed our mind

Not great from us that

That's why they let Albrighton go.

Poor poor poor

https://archive.ph/rC4KV

Not poor in my mind. He was our player, our player to recall back. Its football, these things happen.

[Cjay]

Not poor in my mind. He was our player, our player to recall back. Its football, these things happen.

Did you feel the same about when Swansea did the same to us?

[whiteswan]

Did you feel the same about when Swansea did the same to us?

No

But that was Scum who gazumped us. Swansea sold to the highest bidder at the last minute.

[DDB220]

No

But that was Scum who gazumped us. Swansea sold to the highest bidder at the last minute.

We weren’t gazumped the Swansea chairman changed his mind as he thought 3 million was too low. It turns out he was correct as they sold him for far more to Manure in the summer.

Harrison will not sign a new contract, he would be a fool to do so, why would he feel obliged to push up his value as it affects the more a club has to pay, which will have a bearing on the contract negotiations. Hopefully his value will still be around 20 million in the summer of thereabouts. But what a complete shambles.

[Barlow Boy]

Harrison will not sign a new contract, he would be a fool to do so, why would he feel obliged to push up his value as it affects the more a club has to pay, which will have a bearing on the contract negotiations. Hopefully his value will still be around 20 million in the summer of thereabouts. But what a complete shambles.

Didn’t seem to bother Llorente, he signed a new contract and we still sold him and got good money (if the figures are to be believed that is).

[DDB220]

Didn’t seem to bother Llorente, he signed a new contract and we still sold him and got good money (if the figures are to be believed that is).

So Llorente knew Leeds wanted him out of the door but agreed to sign a contract. Sounds more likely that he was unaware, but we may never know.

[Carrick Dave]

So Llorente knew Leeds wanted him out of the door but agreed to sign a contract. Sounds more likely that he was unaware, but we may never know.

Don't players still get a percentage of the transfer fee for signing up? If so it would make sense for Llorente or Jack to maximise their market value by signing a new deal.

As someone said elsewhere, when Diego signed the new contract at Leeds he was guaranteed at least that income, irrespective of who paid it.

[1964white]

47 pages on Jack Harrison on Foxes Talk, more than Jack's thread here on MOT.


https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/130997-jack-harrison/

[Irish Ian]

This also creates bigger issues.

The club were clearly more than willing to let Harrison go at one point. Hardly makes him feel wanted

Also as Phil says Leicester have a higher wage ceiling than us and he was likely in for a long term contract (possibly up until 2029) and a significant wage rise.

Leicester have quite a few players on £100k a week plus.

For us it's said only Rodrigo and Bamford are near the £100k mark.

So what Leicester consider a fairly reasonable salary to us is probably top earner level.

Has Harrison earned that level of wage here? Probably not.

But why would he accept less?

More than willing suggests we accept the £20M and double our money.
They did neither.



He is a professional footballer. Everyone has their price.

Imagine the protestations from you if the numbers were higher and he wasnt made available to travel a couple of hours to Leicester...

Professional footballers have all the power in situations like this. Not happy they down tools.
He didnt force his way out either, despite the expected offer of s big wage and signi g on bonus.

The only bigger issue is our wage structure, but seeing so many of us count every penny spent as if it was our own no doubt we will here more from you at some point.

[DDB220]

Don't players still get a percentage of the transfer fee for signing up? If so it would make sense for Llorente or Jack to maximise their market value by signing a new deal.

As someone said elsewhere, when Diego signed the new contract at Leeds he was guaranteed at least that income, irrespective of who paid it.

No players generally do not get a percentage of a transfer fee. Agents generally do - whether any of that filters down to the player …..who knows.

A player can negotiate better wages by reducing the amount any buying club has to pay. The obvious method is to run down their contract. Signing a new contract on the expectation of leaving the club just does not make any sense to me from a players perspective.

[Barlow Boy]

So Llorente knew Leeds wanted him out of the door but agreed to sign a contract. Sounds more likely that he was unaware, but we may never know.

He must have known he was floating down the pecking order of a starting spot and, therefore, much more likely to be the one that left.

Anyway, as you say, we will never know.

[whiteswan]

47 pages on Jack Harrison on Foxes Talk, more than Jack's thread here on MOT.


https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/130997-jack-harrison/

Most don't rate him, a few are OK at 20m but not 35m so I guess pleased he didnt sign for them

[Cjay]

Sky Sports reporting we will match Leicester offer . . . .

So Harrison will become one of our highest earners.

Ludicrous

[weasel]

Players usually get some sort of signing on fee when they sign a new contract. As such when Llorente signed his new contract he probably got that and he would have stayed on the same wages or got higher ones. As such it guaranteed financial security. He may also have had certain clauses inserted into the contract such as being allowed to leave if we received an offer over a certain amount and possibly also a guarantee that we would let him go out on loan if an offer came in. Needless to say that for him to sign a new contract it would have benefitted him as well as the club protecting their asset. As such a win win situation with the only real risk being to the club if no other club wanted him and he simply dropped further and further down the pecking order.

As it is so far it looks like it has suited both parties. Llorente has joined a decent club with a manager that clearly rates him, Jose Mourinho having previously given him his debut at Real Madrid so he knows what Llorente has to offer and thinks he is capable of fitting into his Roma team.

As for Harrison you would imagine the club would be looking to tie him to a longer contract and similarly Harrison would be looking to have certain clauses put into the contract so that again both parties are happy with the deal.

[weasel]

Sky Sports reporting we will match Leicester offer . . . .

So Harrison will become one of our highest earners.

Ludicrous

Our wage bill is going to continually increase. I would imagine that if we sign McKennie permanently he will be on a high wage. I don't see why Harrison shouldn't be one of our highest earners. Rodrigo and Bamford are likely our current highest earners. Harrison has scored 6 premier league goals than Rodrigo and 3 less than Bamford. Yes he has played more games but equally he hasn't played as a striker and also hasn't taken penalties. We know what we get with Harrison, inconsistency but overall a consistent return, 8 league goals in each of the last 2 seasons.

You contrast that to someone like Aaronsen who is likely to be on a decent wage and look at the conribution and Harrison is miles ahead. Could he be better? yes, could he be more consistent? yes. But what he already offers is pretty good so if he does improve then what a player we have. The only reason to suggest he would get worse would be for him to completely go off the boil in a manner similar to Dele Alli or for him to completely not fit the system. For me I think he has the ability to fit any system and why fans insist on writing players off as not being able to be adaptable after just a handful of matches in a new role is baffling considering what we have seen with players such as Dallas in recent years. As a player you aren't going to simply fit into a new system or new role straightaway but given a few matches in the new role/system you will start to learn how to play well in that role/system.

[Cjay]

Our wage bill is going to continually increase. I would imagine that if we sign McKennie permanently he will be on a high wage. I don't see why Harrison shouldn't be one of our highest earners. Rodrigo and Bamford are likely our current highest earners. Harrison has scored 6 premier league goals than Rodrigo and 3 less than Bamford. Yes he has played more games but equally he hasn't played as a striker and also hasn't taken penalties. We know what we get with Harrison, inconsistency but overall a consistent return, 8 league goals in each of the last 2 seasons.

You contrast that to someone like Aaronsen who is likely to be on a decent wage and look at the conribution and Harrison is miles ahead. Could he be better? yes, could he be more consistent? yes. But what he already offers is pretty good so if he does improve then what a player we have. The only reason to suggest he would get worse would be for him to completely go off the boil in a manner similar to Dele Alli or for him to completely not fit the system. For me I think he has the ability to fit any system and why fans insist on writing players off as not being able to be adaptable after just a handful of matches in a new role is baffling considering what we have seen with players such as Dallas in recent years. As a player you aren't going to simply fit into a new system or new role straightaway but given a few matches in the new role/system you will start to learn how to play well in that role/system.

He has in no way earned parity with our top earners.

I believe in rewarding form not past.

Harrison has been largely awful since August (those performances against Cardiff reserves and Accrington Stanley have really changed the narrative it seems).

Only have to look at motm threads or match threads or this one, he has been largely crap.

Decent pro, gives his all, has the odd great game in between 10-15 absolutely awful.

He doesn't fit the system either.

He hasn't got the versatility our other attacking players have.

He should be a mid earner as we move past him and progress as a club

But if we are really going to match the 5.5 year contract Leicester offered and a significant wage rise then he will be near our top earners.

Decent pro, gives his all but, but he is a bang average Premier league winger, occasionally great, but often anonymous or awful.

Nothing wrong with that, but certainly doesn't justify a big wage rise.

[1964white]

Most don't rate him, a few are OK at 20m but not 35m so I guess pleased he didnt sign for them

Their fans probably see the inconsistency in his game, Swannie

Glad Jack is staying all the same, nice to have a larger squad & more options.