Hopefully doesn't enjoy the London "effect" too much or he'll want to be off to Arse next seasonCumbriarents wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:21 am Good move for Charlie, will get the experience of playing regular pro football.
It's such a big step up from u23s to first team prem especially for a defender
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Re: Charlie Cresswell
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Re: Charlie Cresswell
Charlie has agreed to join Millwall on loan and will have a medical.
Hopefully be our Ben White.
Certainly got the potential.
Would have kept him myself.
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Re: Charlie Cresswell
I'm 50:50 should we have kept him in the squad for the season or got some big-boy minutes in him, with both ideas having merits. Hopefully we have a recall clause in the deal to bring him back in January if needed.
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I think he will become a bit of a cult hero at The Den. They will love him.
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I'm 50/50 too, but a full blooded season (or half season if we recall him) will do his development the world of good. He needs to be starting regularly and it seems we can't offer him that yet. Hate that mob, but they're more of a footballing side than they used to be so may well be a good move for him and he comes back knocking on the first team door.
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Re: Charlie Cresswell
And we're less of one so the gap narrowslufc1304 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:15 am I'm 50/50 too, but a full blooded season (or half season if we recall him) will do his development the world of good. He needs to be starting regularly and it seems we can't offer him that yet. Hate that mob, but they're more of a footballing side than they used to be so may well be a good move for him and he comes back knocking on the first team door.
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Good luck Charlie, hope you are back with us next season.
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Can't see if it's season long or till Christmas, I'm going to assume season long and I'm not sure he'll be able to be recalled unless he gets injured.. I'd imagine we're getting a fee too, maybe a Mill plus, possibly 2?
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I like CC, great potential, United can't offer him first team chances with Cooper, Koch, Llorente, Hjielde and Struijk, so it looks like a loan is the best option at this stage, he's still young, a full blooded championship season won't do him any harm, it might us though, if we aint careful he will think we don't want him and end up elsewhere on t' cheap.
It would be criminal if we didn't have a clause to call him back when needed, but thats Leeds all over right ?
It would be criminal if we didn't have a clause to call him back when needed, but thats Leeds all over right ?
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I don't think recall is allowed in the case of season long loans unless there's mutual agreement (ie injury) There was a new rule put in place 3/4 seasons ago..mentalcase wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:15 pm I like CC, great potential, United can't offer him first team chances with Cooper, Koch, Llorente, Hjielde and Struijk, so it looks like a loan is the best option at this stage, he's still young, a full blooded championship season won't do him any harm, it might us though, if we aint careful he will think we don't want him and end up elsewhere on t' cheap.
It would be criminal if we didn't have a clause to call him back when needed, but thats Leeds all over right ?
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No better place to learn than the Den. They don't take fools gladly down there. If he gets it right he will be sound.
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There might be a mutual recall/refund of money. Nketiah was returned as we didn't use him then he got injured, so either mutual consent or injury return. but I think if Charlie sets the division alight, helps put Millwall in with a shout of promotion then I'm fairly sure we can't recall without Millwall's consent they would have paid for him for the season and obviously require he stays
I don't think a recall clause can be added, if their paying a fee it's basically a sale
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Thanks for that. I'm not aware of the finer clauses that can be put into loan contracts.faaip wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:37 pm There might be a mutual recall/refund of money. Nketiah was returned as we didn't use him then he got injured, so either mutual consent or injury return. but I think if Charlie sets the division alight, helps put Millwall in with a shout of promotion then I'm fairly sure we can't recall without Millwall's consent they would have paid for him for the season and obviously require he stays
I don't think a recall clause can be added, if their paying a fee it's basically a sale
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Re: Charlie Cresswell
Neither am I, I do know that Chelsea would have liked Gallagher back last season but no chance... It's common sense though as it protects the team loaning the player, fairly sure we could have put our foot down regarding Nketiah... Loanees cannot play against their parent club either in the league..
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Now that's one I do know. Fortunately for Millwall it's not a problem for them.faaip wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:25 pm Neither am I, I do know that Chelsea would have liked Gallagher back last season but no chance... It's common sense though as it protects the team loaning the player, fairly sure we could have put our foot down regarding Nketiah... Loanees cannot play against their parent club either in the league..
I hear Millwall have a decent training setup so I'm Ok with the destination but I do also wonder if he would have been better placed at Burnley under Kompany (and he would have stayed nearer to home).
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Really think Cresswell has what it takes. With Cooper, Llorenete, Strujik, Koch (plus Ayling) theres not much chance of first team minutes for him. Let's hope he has a good season. Then he can replace one of those guys next year.
Re: Charlie Cresswell
Done deal. He's completed his loan move to Millwall.
I've just been lurking on a Millwall forum, and they're talking about THIS forum.
Myself,Cjay and others get mentioned.
Link below.
https://millwallonline.com/forum/thread ... ell.51574/
I've just been lurking on a Millwall forum, and they're talking about THIS forum.
Myself,Cjay and others get mentioned.

Link below.
https://millwallonline.com/forum/thread ... ell.51574/
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Re: Charlie Cresswell
Hopefully this will be a good move for Cresswell. I've seen a lot of him in the 23's and always thought he looked a top class prospect. A good season in the championship and he can come back and be a player for us next year.
Some have suggested we should have kept him this year. With Cooper, Llorente, Koch, Strujik, he'd struggle for a place on the bench. Next year.
Some have suggested we should have kept him this year. With Cooper, Llorente, Koch, Strujik, he'd struggle for a place on the bench. Next year.
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Just had a look at that threadRook wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:36 pm Done deal. He's completed his loan move to Millwall.
I've just been lurking on a Millwall forum, and they're talking about THIS forum.
Myself,Cjay and others get mentioned.![]()
Link below.
https://millwallonline.com/forum/thread ... ell.51574/

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