The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thursday 30th January) - Frankfurt want to renegotiate Kristensen deal

[mentalcase]

F#ck harrison he's currently 6th in the line of wingers we have and we only have 4.
Should never have bought him and yes I said that at the time

[Phild]

But we had him at championship level
Very average at best then and has arguably gone backwards since those days

[Jammy 07]

There's no way a club taking a player on a season long loan would be able contractually to terminate the loan a few of hours/days before the January transfer window closes as any option to terminate would have already expired earlier in the window.

[The Subhuman]

There's no way a club taking a player on a season long loan would be able contractually to terminate the loan a few of hours/days before the January transfer window closes as any option to terminate would have already expired earlier in the window.

Not a rule I've heard of tbh, some research is necessary

[The Subhuman]

There's no way a club taking a player on a season long loan would be able contractually to terminate the loan a few of hours/days before the January transfer window closes as any option to terminate would have already expired earlier in the window.

OK, there doesn't appear to be anything in the rule that says there's a deadline for terminating loans. At the start of a loan the two parties sign a new short term contract and it looks like it can be terminated by either club or player. The lending club is required by law to reintegrate said player. Now I'd imagine that could mean to play and train for the 21's or train with the first team squad with no obligation to have him in the match day squad

it is the author’s view that, if in such circumstances the Home Club refuses to immediately reintegrate the player, a tribunal would likely deem the original contract to have been unilaterally terminated by the Home Club, such that the consequences under Article 17 of the RSTP (for termination without just cause) will apply.

Probably explains why Wober was reintegrated



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https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/cb37201b0 ... dition.pdf

[weasel]

Harrison has a great injury record which in modern football is a feat in itself but he isn’t better than Dan James or Solomon. No chance.

It won't happen but if he was to return then I'd fully expect hsi goals and assists to be similar to our other wingers. Stats wise he wasn't far behind Raphinha for us.

[Cjay]

It won't happen but if he was to return then I'd fully expect hsi goals and assists to be similar to our other wingers. Stats wise he wasn't far behind Raphinha for us.

Comparing Harrison to Raph in any sort of favourable way is a bold move

Stats don't tell the whole story as you frequently tell me.

Harrison would get a goal and do absolutely fook all else in the game week in week out.

Raph was head and shoulders our best player practically every game he played.

I realise what you are trying to say (they are still a fair distance apart in stats anyway) but can't mention Raph and Jack in the same sentence.

[Trigger]

Jake the Pakes a good injury record, he had an extra leg.

[weasel]

Comparing Harrison to Raph in any sort of favourable way is a bold move

Stats don't tell the whole story as you frequently tell me.

Harrison would get a goal and do absolutely fook all else in the game week in week out.

Raph was head and shoulders our best player practically every game he played.

I realise what you are trying to say (they are still a fair distance apart in stats anyway) but can't mention Raph and Jack in the same sentence.

So all it took for you to see truth was me using stats to sho that statistically Harrison and Raphinha were similar.

20/21 season
Harrison 8 goals and 8 assists - 2990 minutes
Raphinha 8 goals and 11 assists - 2893 minutes

21/22 season
Harrison 10 goals and 2 assists - 2917 minutes
Raphinha 11 goals and 3 assists - 2968 minutes

Overall:
Harrison 18 goals and 10 assists - 5907 minutes
Raphinha 19 goals and 14 assists - 5861minutes

Hardly suggests that 1 is a world superstar and one would be 5th choice winger for a championship side. They are like peas in a pod and I have no doubt that if Harrison was playing for Barcelona he would be the better player - have I gone to far.

[Irish Ian]

So all it took for you to see truth was me using stats to sho that statistically Harrison and Raphinha were similar.

20/21 season
Harrison 8 goals and 8 assists - 2990 minutes
Raphinha 8 goals and 11 assists - 2893 minutes

21/22 season
Harrison 10 goals and 2 assists - 2917 minutes
Raphinha 11 goals and 3 assists - 2968 minutes

Overall:
Harrison 18 goals and 10 assists - 5907 minutes
Raphinha 19 goals and 14 assists - 5861minutes

Hardly suggests that 1 is a world superstar and one would be 5th choice winger for a championship side. They are like peas in a pod and I have no doubt that if Harrison was playing for Barcelona he would be the better player - have I gone to far.

If Raph was eye candy then Harrison was eye sore.

I bet Aaronson would like him back, they can resume their little chats about whose turn it was to waste the corner or free kick

[1964white]

I bet Aaronson would like him back, they can resume their little chats about whose turn it was to waste the corner or free kick

Oh my god, I couldn't handle all that nonsense again!

[VinnysTattoo]

Harrison is for me the most frustrating player I’ve seen at Leeds for many years.

Brilliant one game, playing with ten men the next four or five.

Between now and the end of the season we need steady 7/10 performances when the pressure is on. Pretty sure he’s not the player we need right now.

[weasel]

Harrison is for me the most frustrating player I’ve seen at Leeds for many years.

Brilliant one game, playing with ten men the next four or five.

Between now and the end of the season we need steady 7/10 performances when the pressure is on. Pretty sure he’s not the player we need right now.

Clearly a talented player but inconsistent. I do think he is very much a confidence player, and believe he has a 'mind coach' type of person to help him deal with that. I can't imagine it is easy for him at Everton given the toxic nature of the club and how mediocre they have been for the last few years, or indeed most of their history. If he was to come back, though I don't see it happening thise season, then I would be happy for Farker to use him as he wanted. A bit similar to Gnonto, in terms of consistency, but he had a purpler patch then it could be huge.

[Cjay]

So all it took for you to see truth was me using stats to sho that statistically Harrison and Raphinha were similar.

20/21 season
Harrison 8 goals and 8 assists - 2990 minutes
Raphinha 8 goals and 11 assists - 2893 minutes

21/22 season
Harrison 10 goals and 2 assists - 2917 minutes
Raphinha 11 goals and 3 assists - 2968 minutes

Overall:
Harrison 18 goals and 10 assists - 5907 minutes
Raphinha 19 goals and 14 assists - 5861minutes

Hardly suggests that 1 is a world superstar and one would be 5th choice winger for a championship side. They are like peas in a pod and I have no doubt that if Harrison was playing for Barcelona he would be the better player - have I gone to far.

Is a reason one moved to Barcelona and the other to a relegation threatened team.

Levels apart no matter what stat says.

[weasel]

Is a reason one moved to Barcelona and the other to a relegation threatened team.

Levels apart no matter what stat says.

But how do you explain the stats being so close if they are levels apart?

[Cjay]

But how do you explain the stats being so close if they are levels apart?

Other stats as you well know

I get your point, he'd probably do OK in the right setup.

Is FarkeBall it though? Harrison is a left winger, Farke likes his front line narrow like Jesse Marsch and we rarely cross the ball.

Was never a fan and don't want him back but even if I was I don't think he'd fit tactically.

[Jaydog]

It won't happen but if he was to return then I'd fully expect hsi goals and assists to be similar to our other wingers. Stats wise he wasn't far behind Raphinha for us.

Strange how these things work out isn’t it. To think Jack could be tearing it up at Camp Nou whilst poor old Raph would be slumming it with the robbing scousers. Sliding doors…

[weasel]

Other stats as you well know

I get your point, he'd probably do OK in the right setup.

Is FarkeBall it though? Harrison is a left winger, Farke likes his front line narrow like Jesse Marsch and we rarely cross the ball.

Was never a fan and don't want him back but even if I was I don't think he'd fit tactically.

I did feel that at some point under Bielsa he would have been a fluid 10.