Premier League Thread

[Pullhard]

The three promoted teams have 2pts from a possible 27.

Therein lies the gulf between Championship and Premier League.
Last season was 3 up 3 down. Could happen again.

We had the Bielsa factor last time … but it got figured out sadly and we need a new plan if we want to get to that level

[PhoenixUnited]

Therein lies the gulf between Championship and Premier League.
Last season was 3 up 3 down. Could happen again.

We had the Bielsa factor last time … but it got figured out sadly and we need a new plan if we want to get to that level

Hindsight is an exact science but when we got promotion and had that wonderful first season in the Premiership with more or less the same players we came up with we either couldn't or wouldn't invest in the playing squad. Plus we had that arrogant idiot Orta in charge of player recruitment who was left to his own devices and seemingly never questioned about his decisions. We know now it was a recipe for disaster and so it came to pass...................

[weasel]

Hindsight is an exact science but when we got promotion and had that wonderful first season in the Premiership with more or less the same players we came up with we either couldn't or wouldn't invest in the playing squad. Plus we had that arrogant idiot Orta in charge of player recruitment who was left to his own devices and seemingly never questioned about his decisions. We know now it was a recipe for disaster and so it came to pass...................

Also worth noting that when we got promoted last time we basically had a good first XI rather than squad depth, especially if you look at the central defence & midfield options we had. If we get promoted this time then we have to look to get a more balanced squad so that if we do strengthen then we have plenty of back-up players rather than it being down to kids when the injuries bite. Less of the vanity signings but spending money far more wisely.

If you look at last time when we got promoted our central defence consisted solely of Liam Cooper and a very raw untested Struyjk (with Ben White having returned to Brighton) - go up this season and we have a far more proven Struyjk, Rodon, Ampadu and possibly Wober that can play there. In midfield last time we got promoted we had KP, with no like for like back-up and Klich, later obviously Dallas started to play there too. This time around we would have Ampadu and Gruev for the DM role and Tanaka. Out wide and last time around we had Harrison and Costa whereas this time we would be going up with James, Gnonto and Ramazanni (and possibly Aaronsen as a wide player too). Last time we went up and the only striker we had was Bamford, this time if we go up we hopefully have a confident Joseph as well as Bamford and Piroe - even if we haven't worked out Piroe's best fit he then becomes someone we could sell to bring in money towards new signings.

So we have a better starting position in terms of squad depth. If we look at the signings we made last time we went up our 4 big signings were Koch, Llorente, Raphinha and Rodrigo - and only really Raphinha improved the championship winning side (given that White was better than both Koch and Llorente). I would also go as far as to suggest that whilst Raphinha was obviously excellent we would have stayed up that first season without him. So we would definitely need to recruit better and find the Raphinhas that are in our price range.

The concern would then be whether the way we play would hold up in the prem. We saw Burnley continue to try to play the way Kompany wanted to and them continually giving goals away and it looks like Southampton are trying to follow that plan this season. I do feel we are a very comfortable side at playing out from the back but will the same players be as comfortable against better opposition?

[The Subhuman]

Hindsight is an exact science but when we got promotion and had that wonderful first season in the Premiership with more or less the same players we came up with we either couldn't or wouldn't invest in the playing squad. Plus we had that arrogant idiot Orta in charge of player recruitment who was left to his own devices and seemingly never questioned about his decisions. We know now it was a recipe for disaster and so it came to pass...................

We spent 120M first season up .... Raphinha, Koch, Llorente, Rodrigo, Costa, Meslier, Gelhardt

[PhoenixUnited]

We spent 120M first season up .... Raphinha, Koch, Llorente, Rodrigo, Costa, Meslier, Gelhardt

Sorry I didn't make very clear. AFTER the first season evidently Marcelo advised that major surgery for the squad was needed. Words which, apparently, fell on deaf ears or the Club did not have the wherewithal or perhaps something in the middle. The blunt truth of the matter is that we were well out of our depth financially and, likely as not, hamstrung by whatever financial rules that were supposed to control spending by clubs.

We were a Premiership club and the additions of James and Firpo at a cost of around £45m, in the second Premiership season, did not significantly improve or evolve the playing squad. There was the permanent signing of Harrison at a cost in the region of £12m which effectively had no impact on the playing squad as he was essentially in the numbers anyway.

So, the evolution that should have been in train in the second season hit the buffers and with what we had left, the foot down, gung-ho style got found out and we started to cave in during matches getting constantly caught by teams playing counter attacking football and getting tonked.

We survived relegation - just. The following season we embarked on the Jesse adventure ....................

[1964white]

Manchester United have reported a net loss of £113.2m in the year to 30 June, their latest accounts show.

It follows losses of £28.7m in 2022-23 and £115.5m in 2021-22, and their latest figures take total losses over the past five years to over £370m.

Despite the results, United are not expected to breach the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules because not all spending goes against their calculations and clubs can claim allowances known as 'add backs'.

Under Premier League rules clubs cannot lose more than £105m over a three-year period and Everton and Nottingham Forest received points deductions for being in breach.

[PhoenixUnited]

Manchester United have reported a net loss of £113.2m in the year to 30 June, their latest accounts show.

It follows losses of £28.7m in 2022-23 and £115.5m in 2021-22, and their latest figures take total losses over the past five years to over £370m.

Despite the results, United are not expected to breach the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules because not all spending goes against their calculations and clubs can claim allowances known as 'add backs'.

Under Premier League rules clubs cannot lose more than £105m over a three-year period and Everton and Nottingham Forest received points deductions for being in breach.

Under the revised rules, clubs can carry on regardless.................

[The Subhuman]

Manchester United have reported a net loss of £113.2m in the year to 30 June, their latest accounts show.

It follows losses of £28.7m in 2022-23 and £115.5m in 2021-22, and their latest figures take total losses over the past five years to over £370m.

Despite the results, United are not expected to breach the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules because not all spending goes against their calculations and clubs can claim allowances known as "backhanders"

Under Premier League rules clubs cannot lose more than £105m over a three-year period and Everton and Nottingham Forest received points deductions for being in breach.

FYP

[Jimstorrie]

We were a Premiership club and the additions of James and Firpo at a cost of around £45m, in the second Premiership season, did not significantly improve or evolve the playing squad. There was the permanent signing of Harrison at a cost in the region of £12m which effectively had no impact on the playing squad as he was essentially in the numbers anyway.

So, the evolution that should have been in train in the second season hit the buffers ....................

100% agree

[Cjay]

Sean Dyche replacing his only striker Beto mid second half to bring on a near 40 year old Ashley Young and for Ashley Young to miss the deciding penalty is the most Sean Dyche thing ever

[Cjay]

Honeymoon period over for Ange Postenoclue as he's been nicknamed by Spuds fans.

His stubbornness and boring style starting to grate as are his excuses and arrogance by bigging up his past to validate his present.

Scraped by Coventry I'm the cup tonight.

[1964white]

Honeymoon period over for Ange Postenoclue as he's been nicknamed by Spuds fans.

His stubbornness and boring style starting to grate as are his excuses and arrogance by bigging up his past to validate his present.

Scraped by Coventry I'm the cup tonight.

A tricky cup-tie at Coventry, who made it to the FA Cup semi-finals last season.

Spurs rested eight of their team that started against Arsenal last weekend.

[1964white]

[1964white]

Tense, exciting football at the Etihad, yesterday

[PhoenixUnited]

Tense, exciting football at the Etihad, yesterday

Pep was in spit overdrive all match. Just disgusting

[Cjay]

Your time has come Gary

[Jaydog]

Pep was in spit overdrive all match. Just disgusting

I remember the problem Keegan Bradley (PGA Golfer) had with spitting. Very similar to Pep. Many times before every shot. Then the PGA had a word with him and he stopped it. Still a bit of a freak but at least he’s stopped with the endless spitting.
Maybe the PL should have a word.

[DDB220]

Honeymoon period over for Ange Postenoclue as he's been nicknamed by Spuds fans.

His stubbornness and boring style starting to grate as are his excuses and arrogance by bigging up his past to validate his present.

Scraped by Coventry I'm the cup tonight.

Spurs are a club in transition. They have some fantastic young players, the only fans who have suddenly turned on Ange are the typical “ I want it now mummy, I want it now “ !!!.

All clubs have them. Arteta was getting similar stick for his initial 2 years.

No doubt the same fans who want a change for change sake will probably see the 3-0 win at Manure as lucky timing as manure are absolutely shite right now.

[Chilli D]

I remember the problem Keegan Bradley (PGA Golfer) had with spitting. Very similar to Pep. Many times before every shot. Then the PGA had a word with him and he stopped it. Still a bit of a freak but at least he’s stopped with the endless spitting.
Maybe the PL should have a word.

No golfer annoys me more than that twat.
I hope we demolish them in the Ryder Cup next year but Bethpage Black undoubtedly suits them more.

[Jaydog]

No golfer annoys me more than that twat.
I hope we demolish them in the Ryder Cup next year but Bethpage Black undoubtedly suits them more.

I have a few. Rahm for instance. Another entitled dick head.

But the spitting is gross so they should definitely have a word.