Kalvin Phillips

[mentalcase]

I don't buy or read the mirror, just quoting what I have read elsewhere

Wasn't actually hving a go, just saying about the leftie rag.
I think folk just make storys up, well I know they do , even on here.

[PhoenixUnited]

Yesterdays man. Need to move on in my book

[Clacton White]

Maybe he just isn't that good?

He was a pretty average Championship midfielder.

Bielsa came in, made him super fit and gave him a highly regimented and choreographed role.

KP shone in this system for a few years.

Take him away from it without the supreme fitness and almost robotic coaching and he reverts to type?

Wouldn't be the first player who looked a world beater for a few years for a certain manager but faded when out of it.

The England vote he won was a public vote hijacked by Leeds fans.

Was he really the best player for England that year? Probably not

I always felt back pre Bielsa that KP wouldn't amount to a lot and was disappointed when the club sold Viera at that stage , thinking it should have been KP going , he was then imo a £2m player at best , but Bielsa saw something , changed something and made him a 50m player . I think in subsequent seasons since Bielsa went the player has regressed, lack of playing time hasn't helped at all but you move to Man City and have to expect that . I don't think KP now is really a good option for Leeds...to expensive, a huge gamble and would he be better than Ampadu,Kamara or Gruev at this point in time.....you wouldn't pay 20-30m for a player who is going to be down the pecking order . I think there are positions that need that sort of spending more than midfield.

[The Subhuman]

I always felt back pre Bielsa that KP wouldn't amount to a lot and was disappointed when the club sold Viera at that stage , thinking it should have been KP going , he was then imo a £2m player at best , but Bielsa saw something , changed something and made him a 50m player . I think in subsequent seasons since Bielsa went the player has regressed, lack of playing time hasn't helped at all but you move to Man City and have to expect that . I don't think KP now is really a good option for Leeds...to expensive, a huge gamble and would he be better than Ampadu,Kamara or Gruev at this point in time.....you wouldn't pay 20-30m for a player who is going to be down the pecking order . I think there are positions that need that sort of spending more than midfield.

probably yes ... The money is the issue but not the player and there is such a thing as negotiation...

[Cjay]

I always felt back pre Bielsa that KP wouldn't amount to a lot and was disappointed when the club sold Viera at that stage , thinking it should have been KP going , he was then imo a £2m player at best , but Bielsa saw something , changed something and made him a 50m player . I think in subsequent seasons since Bielsa went the player has regressed, lack of playing time hasn't helped at all but you move to Man City and have to expect that . I don't think KP now is really a good option for Leeds...to expensive, a huge gamble and would he be better than Ampadu,Kamara or Gruev at this point in time.....you wouldn't pay 20-30m for a player who is going to be down the pecking order . I think there are positions that need that sort of spending more than midfield.

I think at the end of the day it's not priority position that holding role as you say, and that is the only role it could be for imo.

Buying him in the hope he could be a 6 or an 8 would be an even bigger risk and another LUFC academy graduate surely has that role next season anyway.

The cost, the lack of form, playing time, injury issues, question marks over whether he is a bit of a flash in the pan, it wouldn't be a sensible deal.

And it would make no sense for Man City to drop the price low enough for it to be worth the risk.

They need around £30mil just to break even on ffp and that's £20mil too much.

[pjm2019]

We really think that highly of ourselves? We've lost Leeds fans "hijacked polls a lot of times before that so Kalvin (who was better than Rice for England for that period) won it fair and square. You don't think Manure/City/Liverpool have fans that vote multiple times in polls?

Kalvin is a top class DMF/Sweeper, who was left to rust by City and who didn't want him for that position anyway. He's now suffering from lack of game time and more importantly confidence, plus Moyes doesn't have the ability or imagination to integrate him. I think footballers are people not machines, they suffer from the same doubts/fears we all do and it will always affect performance

As I say he needs to come home, take a pay cut and re-establish himself. If both players are at peak I don't think Ampadu is quite as good as Kalvin.... and boy could we do with the old KP now with nothing at DMF...

I think he is past in and injury prone.

How much would you buy him for and what wages would you offer (a) in this league (b) if we get prompted

[The Subhuman]

I think he is past in and injury prone.

How much would you buy him for and what wages would you offer (a) in this league (b) if we get prompted

I'd go 10-15M and somewhere near Paddy's wages

[ElKapitan]

Yay or nay?

Reasons for against.

For me nay, unless its for 10 million and under 50k a week.

Injury prone, looks OK at Ipswich but nothing outstanding and getting on a bit so no money to recoup.

For the right price and wage, fine but not a player I'd instantly jump at to buy.

[Cjay]

No

1000% no

Rather ask Eddie Gray If he fancies one last dance.

Think of the poor people on Leon's coach who get taken hostage until they give KP motm every game!!!!

They've suffered enough.

[The Subhuman]

lol

[Jaydog]

Did someone say 20 million. Done.

[The Subhuman]

Did someone say 20 million. Done.

We will have been but I'm happy to have him back at the right price

[Jaydog]

We will have been but I'm happy to have him back at the right price

I have no problem spending other people’s money

[andrewjohnsmith]

If the money is right.

We've signed plenty of duds over the past few years. You never know what you're getting.

At least with KP we know what we're getting. And we know he's dedicated to the cause. Rather sign KP than another Roca or McKennie.

[SG90]

I see the rumours have started already then

If we go up I'd say yes. We'd need PL experience and one thing is for sure, he loves the club. Rather that than the likes of McKennie, Roca etc, who were only interested in money and didn't care about Leeds.

[Orange Box]

Does this club really have so little imagination? Maybe he still has a house in Collingham so we wont need to stump up for relocation fees. That’s the only benefit I can see, unless we bring back Bielsa, too. Hes the only coach to get anything out of KP.
It’s a big NO from me.

[Clacton White]

No . Hasn't done anything since he left ........a huge gamble .

[Tom the Cat]

Not for me - jumped ship quickly enough when given the opportunity and his performances nosedived after Bielsa. He must realise that Ipswich are doomed and his only hope of staying in the Prem is to bite the bullet and come back to Leeds.

[lufc1304]

Nope, never go back. As others have said, he has struggled since he left us; even Pep, a Bielsa disciple, couldn't get a consistent tune out of him.

[mentalcase]

Only if he pays us £20M and it's in his contract we don't have to pay or play the lump.