The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 3rd October) Farke didn't want to embarrass players with HT changes

[Sean_Nile]

I think we all agree that selection is left to DF,but, this is a debate, hence why we are putting our twopennorth in, there is no way in the world a manager with any salt about him would listen to an online poll.
As for picking players that train the best !
Some players can't train as good as others due to a number of factors, but when out on t' pitch certainly give their all, Pablo was one, Mcgrath another, then you have players like bamford, harrison and roberts who must have ripped it up in training and thats where it stopped.

Have you had one of those team selection things set to you by Leeds web site?

I was just ruminating if lots of fans filled it in and as an ultimate expression of fan power the team formation and the player selection that was the most popular would be fielded on match day. A team democratically elected as the best combination by the majority of fans.

Would it work... I don't think so.

How would the fans react if their team selection lost? They would have no excuses.

How would those fans feel if their team selection was not played? They would be argumentative as ever.

What if democratic team selection was a complete disaster and brought more problems than it solved? They would have a conspiracy theory that the ballot box had been tampered with.

I would suggest that an intimate knowledge of a players physical and mental health, his confidence levels, his interactions and communication with his fellow teammates, his leadership qualites, might be more critical in team selection than doing it by fan opinion poll.

Are football matches only played so that fans can have differing opinions, and entertainment and league position are minor considerations?

[geronimo]

Fck knows, i don't know it fcking drives you daft, folk need to get a thicker skin ffs, Jesus it's only fcking words on a screen, i couldn't give a flying fck what any fcker writes abart me, i don't even know the pricks that do anyhoos.

Best shuddup or i'll be next

That's a good one , pull the other one it's got bells on , he got banned for constant provocative behaviour rattling on about everton all the time
I was banned for a week before him , and as for coming out in solidarity, you would not know what to do with yourself,,
dont worry yourself your bum chum will be back soon, so watch yourself or it will be the naughty step for you and jaydog too

[geronimo]

I think it shows ineffective man management if anything, players should understand that the team comes first and if someone isn’t performing they get replaced - if the attitude is I don’t want to upset someone then that shows a manager who is weak and people won’t respect that. We had another manager once who wasn’t afraid to hook players at any point in a match if the game wasn’t going our way - and the players all loved him for it. I’ll be very angry if he gives cooper another chance to redeem himself tomorrow night - it’s not even a problem with cooper it’s the compromise on struijk that’s the issue.

The troubling stat today is that over the past decade none of the automatically promoted teams had to overcome a deficit as big as the one Leeds are looking at with this many games played - I’d still expect Ipswich to come unstuck at some point but Leicester look like they will runaway with it whilst we toil in the mud with the rest.

Absolutely spot on
Ding ding we have a winner , you have won a chicken dinner

[The Subhuman]

Any manager only has one thing to consider at 3-0 down. If I make substitutions are we more or less likely to win?

Surely no one thinks it’s ok if he’s thinking “Hmmm, we can win this if I take Coops off, but he might be upset so I’ll leave him on.”

At 3-0 down he’s got to be thinking about scoring not about fixing the defence. So more likely to be looking at changing up the system. In which case why would anyone throw a tantrum at being replaced?

This is the first thing I haven’t liked about Farke.

Agreed, once we were 3-0 down then defensive changes weren't needed. Also at 3-0 down there was maybe a case to see if those on the pitch could right the ship...

Sometimes you need to lose a battle to win a war

That said I'd have made changes at HT and then around 60 if needed

[mentalcase]

Have you had one of those team selection things set to you by Leeds web site?

I was just ruminating if lots of fans filled it in and as an ultimate expression of fan power the team formation and the player selection that was the most popular would be fielded on match day. A team democratically elected as the best combination by the majority of fans.

Would it work... I don't think so.

How would the fans react if their team selection lost? They would have no excuses.

How would those fans feel if their team selection was not played? They would be argumentative as ever.

What if democratic team selection was a complete disaster and brought more problems than it solved? They would have a conspiracy theory that the ballot box had been tampered with.

I would suggest that an intimate knowledge of a players physical and mental health, his confidence levels, his interactions and communication with his fellow teammates, his leadership qualites, might be more critical in team selection than doing it by fan opinion poll.

Are football matches only played so that fans can have differing opinions, and entertainment and league position are minor considerations?

Never heard of them sean, if they indeed exist ?
Going back many years, the England team was picked solely by a committee, the manager Walter Winterbottom wanted to make changes but wasn't allowed, even the papaers had 2nd pick before the manager, imagine that at ER

[BlancdeBlanc]

Surely a major consideration should be the nature of the team we are to play. Southampton are very different to Watford, Cooper could handle Watford’s slow attack but he couldn’t handle the pacy Soton forwards however well he did in training that week. Similarly, are the opponents likely to be all-out for a win or happy with a draw. Horses for courses and it shouldn’t always be the same starting eleven, but emotion shouldn’t come into it. They are all grown men,

[Sean_Nile]

Never heard of them sean, if they indeed exist ?
Going back many years, the England team was picked solely by a committee, the manager Walter Winterbottom wanted to make changes but wasn't allowed, even the papaers had 2nd pick before the manager, imagine that at ER

Perhaps i was a bit confused since I had just seeing the Leeds badge at the bottom of the page and assumed it was coming from the Leeds site... or some arrangement had been made to feed the info back to the leeds web page.

Perhaps it was just for fun, or perhaps it was gathering stats for bookies... anyroads it came to me unsolicited as a Leeds fan and since I am only signed on to Lutv I assumed it was from them.

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[1964white]

Surely a major consideration should be the nature of the team we are to play. Southampton are very different to Watford, Cooper could handle Watford’s slow attack but he couldn’t handle the pacy Soton forwards however well he did in training that week. Similarly, are the opponents likely to be all-out for a win or happy with a draw. Horses for courses and it shouldn’t always be the same starting eleven, but emotion shouldn’t come into it. They are all grown men,

Trust a lady to talk some sense `

I've mentioned Watford's slow, dirty, useless No.9, plus the pace of the Southampton attacking prowess several times on various topics, and my posts seem to go over the majority of heads on here

[Sean_Nile]

And this would be my starting eleven

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[Chilli D]

And this would be my starting elevenIMG_20231003_165035.jpg

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And mine

[1964white]

And this would be my starting elevenIMG_20231003_165035.jpg

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I go with that team.

We may have to play three centre-mids against Bristol City on Saturday.

[Kennyb41]

That's a good one , pull the other one it's got bells on , he got banned for constant provocative behaviour rattling on about everton all the time
I was banned for a week before him , and as for coming out in solidarity, you would not know what to do with yourself,,
dont worry yourself your bum chum will be back soon, so watch yourself or it will be the naughty step for you and jaydog too

pull ?

[mentalcase]

Perhaps i was a bit confused since I had just seeing the Leeds badge at the bottom of the page and assumed it was coming from the Leeds site... or some arrangement had been made to feed the info back to the leeds web page.

Perhaps it was just for fun, or perhaps it was gathering stats for bookies... anyroads it came to me unsolicited as a Leeds fan and since I am only signed on to Lutv I assumed it was from them.IMG_20231003_163520.jpg

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Ah, honestly never seen it, I also agree with your line up below, Rodon as captain.
See how that transpires, then, if changes are needed for Bristol, fair enough, horses for courses I always say.

[mentalcase]

I go with that team.

We may have to play three centre-mids against Bristol City on Saturday.

Yes we could afford to lose at forward and put 3 in midfield, or even 3 at the back as well, as I say, horses for courses.

[Phild]

Not a believer in horses for courses
That’s worrying too much about the opposition
Play your best team and let them do the worrying.
We should be more than good enough in the vast majority of games
Guess Leicester and for that matter any other side on a good run don’t do the horses for courses thing

[Jaydog]

pull ?

Bum chum.
Tut tut. Homophobic comments from Geronimo, why am I not surprised.

[Musicman1965]

There is so much to praise Daniel Farke as Leeds United manager, a real sense of belief is going around the fan base everytime we play.
I, like most in the forum give credit where credit is due but the Southampton game imo was a tactical blunder. DF was very vocal about Leeds visiting Southampton and he stated its the worse time to play them, so instead of playing the best side we can, we opt to keep with the same side that destroyed Watford. When Southampton started with the high press our defence could not cope and changes needed to be made. Cooper was having a tough time, the supply to the midfield was cut off and the wingers were wasteful. Ok its a bad day at the office but the point is play your best side no matter whom it might upset.

[Irish Ian]

I'd rather listen to Weasel and that s**t for brains idiot who opines about everything.

[Kennyb41]

Bum chum.
Tut tut. Homophobic comments from Geronimo, why am I not surprised.

Eeeee, i don't know, folk'l be thinkin i'm gay next, sat here in my ickle pink dress

With a giant fist dildo between me legs

What's the topic again ? Oh yeah, DF and his fck up, right anyway, it's done ffs, we've ANALised the arse out of it, in wonderful hindsight he could've done a feckin load of different things, send him to the gallows ffs and be done.

But i'm waiting to see how we perform v QPR and eagerly waiting for his team selection, which my expert eye reckons should be..

Les Mes
Ayling - Rodon - Pascal - Bygum
Ampadu - Gray
Rutter - Piroe - James
Bamford..........I'm not reet sure about how to play and use those front 4 and would need to be the manager and have had them on the training ground, he'll not go with that anyhoos, so fck it and see.

Two games at home, i hope we take full advantage, we're gonna be hit on the break by both, unless at least one of them has done their homework now and studied how Soton took us to the feckin cleaners.

Then we'll find out if he's got owt in his locker.

[The Subhuman]

I'd rather listen to Weasel and that s**t for brains idiot who opines about everything.

Sorry about that