Premiership debate

[mentalcase]

Bloody hell, I must have had a damn good weekend away, I didn't know most of those results above, we even saw some of those televised as well

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Fulham defence all at sea, last night.

How Broja missed, I don't know, made up for it with Chelsea 2nd goal

Lovely goal from Mudryk for their first goal.

Moneybags Chelsea still only 11th in the table.

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No one would have predicted the Villa v Brighton scoreline.

On their day, Brighton look like world beaters, on another day they endure some horrible defeats

Brighton have conceded goal in their last 11 condsecutive games.

Both defences looked suspect!

A hat-trick for Watkins, but the pick of the goals was Villa's fifth from Ramsey.

Villa up to 5th in the table after winning 5 of their last 6 games.

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Luton beating Everton at Goodison was the best result of the weekend, better than Palace's victory at the Stadium of

Jack came on in the second-half to no avail

Well done to the hatters on their first ever Premier League victory

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[mentalcase]

As I've been saying for years, those in europe without the squads (outside the greedy 6, soon to be 7) will suffer and have a knock on effect, european hangover, so many teams in the past have had it.

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A lovely move & a fine finish from Jarrod Bowen helping the hammers to 2-0 victory over the out of their depth blunts.

Bowen's 5th goal of the season & a much better start to the season for West Ham sees them go 7th in the table.

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As I've been saying for years, those in europe without the squads (outside the greedy 6, soon to be 7) will suffer and have a knock on effect, european hangover, so many teams in the past have had it.

Yes Mental, occurs so often to the non-elite clubs.

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Citeh lose their first game of the season, but remain top after their impressive start.

I detest Wolves.

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Referees Darren England and Dan Cook have been stood down after their inept officialling at the weekend.

[mentalcase]

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Bournemouth second bottom after Burnley's win at Luton last night.

I wonder how Sinisterra & Adams feel about their move south-west.

Hopefully, both will endure consecutive relegation's

[Kennyb41]

Here this might cheer you up, there's nothing better to pick me up on a shite day than to read about scums woes, i've prayed for these days to arrive ever since Jordan and McQueen, and boy am i in my element and hope it lasts till i die, there is absolutely nothing at all in this world i hate and detest than scum, only GS comes close and Leeds fans that wanted Bert sacked.

Enjoy this below, IT'S A COPY N PASTE BTW !!!

The big issues
The problem for Ten Hag at the moment is twofold. The Dutchman has been affected badly by injuries and absences.

He lost both left-backs, Luke Shaw and Tyrell Malacia, to long-term injuries. His last-minute replacement, Sergio Reguilon, is also sidelined, meaning Sofyan Amrabat is being used at left-back when the Moroccan is desperately needed in central midfield, where the presence of teenager Kobbie Mainoo has also been denied to Ten Hag due to injury.

Lisandro Martinez is out for up to three months with a broken foot, which means United are weaker in the heart of their defence and are not able to give goalkeeper Andre Onana the passing options envisaged.

And then there is the Sancho stand-off, which shows no sign of resolution, and the board level decisions taken around Antony over the short-term and Mason Greenwood over the long.

But there also questions for the coach to answer.

He was the one who pushed for Antony last summer. United delivered but the £82m spent on the Brazilian meant purse strings were tightened 12 months on to keep the club within Financial Fair Play restrictions.

This summer, David de Gea was ditched due to Ten Hag's demand for a ball-playing goalkeeper.

Onana cost £47.2m. The Cameroon international certainly arrived from Inter Milan with plenty of confidence. But his mistakes are piling up. His aberration in gifting Dries Mertens possession close to the United box ended up costing his side the services of Casemiro, who was sent off after getting a second booking trying to retrieve a desperate situation.

Although United survived the penalty that followed, the reprieve was brief.

"Andre was in one semi-final of the Champions League [with Ajax], last season he was in the final [with Inter], so he has capabilities to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world," said Ten Hag. "He has shown that.

"We have already seen in games his great capabilities and also his personality. He will bounce back."

'I am responsible'
It is not just Onana who has to bounce back. As Ten Hag says, United as a collective need to find solutions to salvage their season before it's too late.

Although they were booed off, just as they were after the defeat by Crystal Palace on Saturday, it was a reaction to the result rather than disenchantment with the manager.

That sentiment will only last so long. Brentford arrive at Old Trafford on Saturday with only one win all season and one point from their last three games.

"Yes I can understand," said Ten Hag, when asked about the crowd reaction. "Together with my squad, I am responsible for this team, the performance, the result and together with my squad, we don't get the results.

"We have to do better. But I have seen a team with great spirit and also a team that was backed by a crowd from the start to the end.

"We are very disappointed. That is fuel."

Right, i'm just off bashin the Bishop after reading that gain

[The Subhuman]

Yeah it was poor but they aren't the first team to suffer from a bad error.

Releasing a statement whinging

Since the first sending off was before the incident I'd tell them they can replay the match from the sending off with 10 men if they want

It's the nature of the error, you can understand errors in judgement but not errors in procedure. I'm on Liverpools side here and if it brings about changes then that's a good thing

In cricket there's a chapter and verse regarding procedure. The TV umpire will tell the umpire the decision in full. It should have been

"Check complete the goal stands" or whatever so no misunderstanding can occur

The irony is we're standing down two officials who are likely to never to make that mistake again.

[The Subhuman]

Bournemouth second bottom after Burnley's win at Luton last night.

I wonder how Sinisterra & Adams feel about their move south-west.

Hopefully, both will endure consecutive relegation's

Are they playing much? And I would expect they have a get out clause.

[Jaydog]

It's the nature of the error, you can understand errors in judgement but not errors in procedure. I'm on Liverpools side here and if it brings about changes then that's a good thing

In cricket there's a chapter and verse regarding procedure. The TV umpire will tell the umpire the decision in full. It should have been

"Check complete the goal stands" or whatever so no misunderstanding can occur

The irony is we're standing down two officials who are likely to never to make that mistake again.

100 % with Liverpool as it goes beyond a dislike for a football team or manager.
The common denominator is transparency. Football is always the dullard dragging its heels. Slow down, show your process to the public and get it right.
There are endless examples in cricket & rugby. Do the powers that be actually know other sports exist.