Maximilian Wöber-Gone

[lufc1304]

Does look to be a bargain so far. I think he has his limitations, in terms of ball playing, but he seems to be very strong at the defending side of the game.

Koch looks like he can pick a pass, so maybe it's not such a big thing that Wober isn't strong in that area. A bit like Carvallho and Terry at Chelski, one did the donkeying whilst the other could carry the ball out of defence.

[Danieloffthewall27]

It makes you better able to organise ...

Well, i might be wrong then. Btw i just remember an other Austrian defender moving to Leeds United when i was a child.. Martin Hiden

[Danieloffthewall27]

Welcome to our forum, Daniel

Thank you.

[weasel]

Koch looks like he can pick a pass, so maybe it's not such a big thing that Wober isn't strong in that area. A bit like Carvallho and Terry at Chelski, one did the donkeying whilst the other could carry the ball out of defence.

Yeah I agree. Would also be good to have a DM in front of them who was comfortable taking the ball and passing it.

[The Subhuman]

Koch looks like he can pick a pass, so maybe it's not such a big thing that Wober isn't strong in that area. A bit like Carvallho and Terry at Chelski, one did the donkeying whilst the other could carry the ball out of defence.

Oh i think Wober can pick a pass also, it may have been Koch to Gnonto for our first but seconds prior it was the same pass from Wober to Gnonto for our goal of the season (imo)...

[weasel]

Oh i think Wober can pick a pass also, it may have been Koch to Gnonto for our first but seconds prior it was the same pass from Wober to Gnonto for our goal of the season (imo)...

Easier in many ways to hit that sort of pass than a 10 yard pass to a teammate in a crowded situation. You knock that long ball and you have quite a large area to aim it into as well as the fact that if it does get cut out it will likely be a lot further up the pitch than if it is a short pass on the edge of your box (like when the pass went astray v Fulham recently).

[The Subhuman]

Easier in many ways to hit that sort of pass than a 10 yard pass to a teammate in a crowded situation. You knock that long ball and you have quite a large area to aim it into as well as the fact that if it does get cut out it will likely be a lot further up the pitch than if it is a short pass on the edge of your box (like when the pass went astray v Fulham recently).

It was the same pass and neither were played into empty space for a forward to run onto....

[JoeDenver]

Honestly, I think some of the early few passing woes stem more to our managerial changes and accompanying tactics, as well as him getting settled in with his teammates and the player standard in the Premiership. I’d look to see continued improvement from him in that area as time unfolds.

[1964white]

Max subbed off on 36 mins, match delayed for a while

Truly hope his injury isn't too serious, or else we really are in the

[whiteswan]

Max subbed off on 36 mins, match delayed for a while

Truly hope his injury isn't too serious, or else we really are in the

International call ups

[Jaydog]

Tremendous. Not. Really not.

[Cjay]

Hope he is OK

If he isn't that means we are down to 1 senior cb given Coops has taken up permanent residency in the Adam Forshaw Suit

[1964white]

Hope he is OK

If he isn't that means we are down to 1 senior cb given Coops has taken up permanent residency in the Adam Forshaw Suit

Alternatives are Cooper now injury prone, Struijk, Ayling & Kristensen are full-backs, not one of them are nowhere near the level to fill Wober's boots.

A serious injury to Max would probably doom us to relegation, especially with our other most consistent player of the season Tyler Adams out injured.

Someone up there doesn't like us :

Bamford>Sinisterra>Rodrigo>Adams>Wober

[onemoreslogan]

I think if he isn't fit you have to put Struijk in there and see how he makes out.

[Chilli D]

Alternatives are Cooper now injury prone, Ayling & Kristensen are full-backs, not one of them are nowhere near the level to fill Wober's boots.

A serious injury to Max would probably doom us to relegation, especially with our other most consistent player of the season Tyler Adams out injured.

Someone up there doesn't like us :

Bamford>Sinisterra>Rodrigo>Adams>Wober

Pascal can fill the position until Max is back if he is out 64

[1964white]

Apologies Onemore & Chilli, I'd forgotten Pascal not playing in his preferred CB position is a major concern for me, hopefully he would be the answer to our prayers if the worse comes to the worst.

I personally can't see any of the other options including Pascal having the awareness, positioning, leadership Max gives us at the back!

[onemoreslogan]

What I find most remarkable about Wober is how he not only anticipates the worst case scenario (from a defensive perspective) but actually puts himself in position to diffuse it before it occurs. While most experienced defenders are capable of similar vision few, if any, are motivated to prevent an imagined scenario before it happens preferring to wait until it occurs before acting. I've seen it again and again from Wober and it never fails to amaze me.

[1964white]

What I find most remarkable about Wober is how he not only anticipates the worst case scenario (from a defensive perspective) but actually puts himself in position to diffuse it before it occurs. While most experienced defenders are capable of similar vision few, if any, are motivated to prevent an imagined scenario before it happens preferring to wait until it occurs before acting. I've seen it again and again from Wober and it never fails to amaze me.

Difficult to coach anticipation into a footballer's game, it does help Max having a football brain.

[weasel]

Whilst I hope Wober is okay and see him as our best left sided centreback I am not too worried if Cooper or Struyjk have to play instead of him. The main problems we have had defensively this season have been the previous tactics and having to play a right footed defender in the position who was clearly not comfortable playing there. Struyjk looked a bit iffy playing centreback this season but I feel that was again due to the tactics and also due to him having got used to playing left back then being dropped into centreback at short notice. Struyjk being out of the team for a while may actually have helped him in that respect. Cooper is fine in the position also and now we are playing a way that would suit Cooper more, including his ability to play long diagonal passes, he should be able to slot in.

Hopefully though Wober will be fine as would definitely rather have him starting and keeping the defence settled.

[weasel]

Difficult to coach anticipation into a footballer's game, it does help Max having a football brain.

It goes back to a point I made previosuly about how defenders usually get better with age even though their pace may decline. Your reading of the game imporves simply through playing, you learn from your mistakes and your anticipation makes it so much easier. Like you say I don't think you can coach it but that it just happens as you play more games. Cresswell will be a far better defender having played games this season.