The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 15th September) Leeds appeal Struijk's red card

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 15th September) Leeds appeal Struijk's red card

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Chilli D wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:21 am I'd like to see a statement from the FA explaining their reasoning behind the decision and how it differs from the Son challenge.
Inconsistent and shambolic as ever but did we really expect anything different?
Yes it would very interesting to read/hear an explanation of their decision. I think they would struggle if they had to because you can’t easily justify the unjustifiable. Unfortunately they don’t have to, and because it’s us there will be very little pressure on them from the London based media to do so. Just imagine the uproar had it been one of their pet favourites on the wrong end of this blatant miscarriage of justice.
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Imagine being one of the top teams adored by the PL & Sky :roll:
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 15th September) Leeds appeal Struijk's red card

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1964white wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 pm Imagine being one of the top teams adored by the PL & Sky :roll:
When you’re a Leeds United fan it’s not easy 64, but I would imagine that it must make things a lot less aggravating, stressful and perplexing.
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1964white wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:48 pm Imagine being one of the top teams adored by the PL & Sky :roll:
I thought there was a love in consensus with us last season?

Or was that just a brief crush on Bielsa?
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 15th September) Leeds appeal Struijk's red card

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There is no upside for Bielsa to ever criticize a referee, especially in a post-match interview.

Referees, after all, are human, and some have very long memories.

Referees, and those standing behind them, being human is the problem here, isn't it? It's why Klopp can scream for a red and get it while Bielsa never could. It's why Son gets to play and Pascal does not. Disgraceful.

Heck, Harvey Elliott himself said it wasn't a red card offense. For crying out loud.

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The EFL are beginning to look more and more like the NCAA here in the USA.

The big power athletic conferences (The Pac12, the SEC, the Big10, and the ACC) have so much money and power the NCAA is living in fear of them picking up and deciding to leave. As a result, no real enforcement mechanism exists for schools in those conferences.

Case in point: At the University of North Carolina (a member of the ACC) it was found that there were a whole host of classes that basketball players were taking that required no attendance and had no exams. Merely enrolling was enough to earn an A. When the NCAA investigated, however, they found that a few students who were not basketball players had registered for those classes. They therefore decided the problem at UNC was an academic issue and not an issue for the basketball program. The basketball program received no punishment at all. Had this happened at a school in a minor conference.....well, we all know what would have happened.

The same thing is happening in the EFL, especially since the "Big Six" nearly bolted earlier this year. The powers that be are deathly afraid of the big clubs deciding to leave. If Scum, Scousers, etc. could leave the Champions League, what's to prevent them from leaving the Premier League for some league made up of the top teams from each country of Europe?

So we're left with a league where the interests of the big boys will always take precedence over the interests of anyone else and, most especially, the interests of the hated Leeds United.

The only thing we can do to give a big middle finger to the EFL is to start winning games. Let's start on Friday.
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John in Louisiana wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:36 pm The EFL are beginning to look more and more like the NCAA here in the USA.

The big power athletic conferences (The Pac12, the SEC, the Big10, and the ACC) have so much money and power the NCAA is living in fear of them picking up and deciding to leave. As a result, no real enforcement mechanism exists for schools in those conferences.

Case in point: At the University of North Carolina (a member of the ACC) it was found that there were a whole host of classes that basketball players were taking that required no attendance and had no exams. Merely enrolling was enough to earn an A. When the NCAA investigated, however, they found that a few students who were not basketball players had registered for those classes. They therefore decided the problem at UNC was an academic issue and not an issue for the basketball program. The basketball program received no punishment at all. Had this happened at a school in a minor conference.....well, we all know what would have happened.

The same thing is happening in the EFL, especially since the "Big Six" nearly bolted earlier this year. The powers that be are deathly afraid of the big clubs deciding to leave. If Scum, Scousers, etc. could leave the Champions League, what's to prevent them from leaving the Premier League for some league made up of the top teams from each country of Europe?

So we're left with a league where the interests of the big boys will always take precedence over the interests of anyone else and, most especially, the interests of the hated Leeds United.

The only thing we can do to give a big middle finger to the EFL is to start winning games. Let's start on Friday.
Not the EFL, John. They look after the Championship downwards, and are hardly blameless - Spygate etc. It is the Premier League and the FA that you should be venting your spleen at.
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Gandalf wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:56 pm Not the EFL, John. They look after the Championship downwards, and are hardly blameless - Spygate etc. It is the Premier League and the FA that you should be venting your spleen at.
You're right, of course.
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This whole red card malarky has left a really sour taste in my mouth. Though I never expected us to overturn it, I shouldn't be surprised or even annoyed at the decision, but it just brings back all the other injustices directed our way in recent times. It makes it hard to love football when their is such a clear (if not perceived) unfairness and bias.

I second that Klopp needs to get dogs abuse (hopefully by some oppo fans too) when we next play them/others play them. And also that ref. I bet he doesn't get a game at Elland Rd for a long time.

As an aside, Mike Dean is our official for Friday so I'm lead to believe. What's the chances he sends more woe our way being he always seems biased against Leeds?
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The FA were never going to overturn Klopp's decision :)
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The fact that Elliott has said that it wasn't a red has made Klopp look a right bell end.
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Chilli D wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:51 am The fact that Elliott has said that it wasn't a red has made Klopp look a right bell end.
Actually, trampy classless klopp has made himself look a reet bellend.
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White Riot wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:54 am The FA were never going to overturn Klopp's decision :)
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