The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 19th July) - Bielsa selection dilemma at centre back

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Good Morning. It's Monday 19th July, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Bielsa selection dilemma at centre back

Pre season is well underway, and as usual, players are jockeying for position, eager to be involved in the opening game of the season at Old Trafford. The most hotly debated positions have to be at centre back where Marcelo Bielsa has the luxury of choosing two from Llorente, Cooper, Koch and Struijk; a rarity he was rarely afforded last term. New club ambassador Noel When believes 'It’s going to be a really difficult decision to make';

We are blessed with four quality centre-halves. I cannot remember a time where we have had this much competition in that position. It’s going to be a really difficult decision to make. Every single one has got a case to play. You have internationals in Cooper, Llorente and Koch and a great young player in Struijk who I thought was excellent last season. He really stepped up to the plate and showed what a fantastic centre-half he is. He just got better and better.

It is going to be a hell of a jostle in pre-season for those two spots. I am excited by it. “Llorente really showed what a top player he is when he came in. He got a good relationship going with Struijk. He also had a good one with Cooper as well. It is going to be a real tussle between the four of them. You just hope that none of them get any kind of injury that halts their pre-season. Competition is so important to get the best out of players.




Whites pursue Algerian international

Several sports media outlets are reportingthat Leeds are talks with Ligue 1 outfit Metz over their versatile midfielder Farid Boulaya. The 28-year-old can play in attacking midfield or on either flank. Last season, the Algerian International netted six times and was credited with eight assists, helping his side secure a 10th-placed finish in the French top flight. He only has twelve months left on his contract, hence interest from West Yorkshire that they may be able to secure a deal for just €4.5 million.





Leeds chasing Yangel Herrera

According to the Sun, both Leeds and West Ham have been linked to Manchester City's midfielder Yangel Herrera. The 21-capped Venezuela international has enjoyed a two year loan deal at La Liga outfit Granada, helping them to a top half finish last season. He played 62 times, netting five times.

Herrera 23, signed for the blue side of Manchester back in 2017 from Atlético Venezuela. Unfortunately, four years on, Herrara is yet to make his debut! Citeh value their gritty and tenacious midfielder at £20m, which is more than Leeds would want to pay out on a defensive midfielder who will not be guaranteed a starting position!

Perhaps Pep Guardiola will let Leeds have his services on a season long loan move subject to a fixed fee?


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Bielsa selection dilemma at centre back

Lets hope pre season is kind to us and injury free... what a glorious position to be in ... :)
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Smudge3920 wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:03 am Lets hope pre season is kind to us and injury free...

Now you've said it!!
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:16 am Now you've said it!!
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Sorry Cooper fans, have to say that if it's a choice between the four then he comes bottom of the list for me. It's not really a matter of ability, I don't think he's as unsuited to the Prem as some might claim nor do I think he's all that exceptional when stacked up against the alternatives.

The question is, do we want to deprive players like Strujik of first team football now they've proven themselves up to the job? If we don't give it to him then someone else will tempt him away with it.
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I still think it's Llorente or Koch and Struijk or Cooper.
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New club ambassador Noel When
WTAF, never mind the centre back conundrum. Who made that ridiculous decision?
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Llorente and Struijk are the strongest partnership. Unfortunately, Bielsa will favour Cooper out of loyalty, despite him not being capable of the top level. His constant shirt pulling and lunging tackles are a liability as this level. If Struijk is dropped to the u23s as a result, he will want out.
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mothbanquet wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:19 am Sorry Cooper fans, have to say that if it's a choice between the four then he comes bottom of the list for me. It's not really a matter of ability, I don't think he's as unsuited to the Prem as some might claim nor do I think he's all that exceptional when stacked up against the alternatives.

The question is, do we want to deprive players like Strujik of first team football now they've proven themselves up to the job? If we don't give it to him then someone else will tempt him away with it.
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faaip wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:29 am I still think it's Llorente or Koch and Struijk or Cooper.
I'd tend to agree

An interesting option as you've said before could be to push Koch into CDM and play kalvin a bit higher as he did for England
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SG90 wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:40 am Llorente and Struijk are the strongest partnership. Unfortunately, Bielsa will favour Cooper out of loyalty, despite him not being capable of the top level. His constant shirt pulling and lunging tackles are a liability as this level. If Struijk is dropped to the u23s as a result, he will want out.
Without any doubt SG

I was screaming for Pascal to be played in his natural position last season as he didn't look a DM to me. Struijk is a big lad & proved his worth in the CB role in our 1-0 victory over Burnley when we had to defend stoutly & for the first time we were winning headers at set-pieces. From then Bielsa stuck with Pascal & once Llorente recovered from his injury we appeared far better defensively with that pair at the heart of our defence proven by the fact we conceded 14 goals in our last 15 games.
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HarryofOz wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:35 am WTAF, never mind the centre back conundrum. Who made that ridiculous decision?
🤣 that was my first thought too!
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HarryofOz wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:35 am WTAF, never mind the centre back conundrum. Who made that ridiculous decision?
Maybe he keeps his mouth shut now bar pro Leeds comments... Clever move by Leeds if you ask me
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mothbanquet wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:19 am Sorry Cooper fans, have to say that if it's a choice between the four then he comes bottom of the list for me. It's not really a matter of ability, I don't think he's as unsuited to the Prem as some might claim nor do I think he's all that exceptional when stacked up against the alternatives.

The question is, do we want to deprive players like Strujik of first team football now they've proven themselves up to the job? If we don't give it to him then someone else will tempt him away with it.
Cooper would be my first choice.... :shhh:
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danhirons wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:54 am I'd tend to agree

An interesting option as you've said before could be to push Koch into CDM and play kalvin a bit higher as he did for England
If Phillips plays higher up the pitch like he did for England, he needs to weigh in with circa 7-8 goals.
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danhirons wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:54 am I'd tend to agree

An interesting option as you've said before could be to push Koch into CDM and play kalvin a bit higher as he did for England
Options I guess, Koch could play in a back 3 with Kalvin as the DMF which allows the Wing backs to run riot. Push Kalvin into the 8 and play Koch in the Rice role

I do think Koch is maybe our best pure defender, more of a Pontus if you like but with ball playing abilities. I love Llorente on the ball and his positioning is excellent but his tackling can be weak...
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faaip wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:29 am I still think it's Llorente or Koch and Struijk or Cooper.
Have thought this all along why play a right sided CB on the left and vice versa.

Personally would go for Llorente & Struijk to start the season as thought they were building a decent partnership.
However can see it been Koch & Struijk by the end of the season.

Be interesting to see how MB sees it wouldn't be shocked if we go to 3 at the back against Scum.
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SG90 wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:40 am Llorente and Struijk are the strongest partnership. Unfortunately, Bielsa will favour Cooper out of loyalty, despite him not being capable of the top level. His constant shirt pulling and lunging tackles are a liability as this level. If Struijk is dropped to the u23s as a result, he will want out.
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Majority of us going for the Llorente/Struijk partnership

Bielsa's call will be the one that matters though.
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Boulaya isnt the most exciting name in the world.

28 years old, only 1 or 2 seasons of note in his career.

Apparently blighted by injuries, seems that he is one of those players that could have been so much more but circumstances hindered him.

Metz fans rate him, some say he is the most technically gifted player they have seen at Metz (a club that counts Robert Pires, Sylvain Wiltord, Franck Ribery as ex players).

And maybe everything just clicked for him last season and we saw the player that he could have been?

He is top 10 for chances created, big chances created and a host of other stats in the big European leagues the last 12 months.

The Guardian named him in their top 10 for breakthrough transfer targets in January.

https://www.ligue1.com/Articles/ONE-TO- ... ya-fc-metz

He may not be a big name but for £4million it may be a shrewd signing?

Imo at times we really lacked creativity centrally so if Farid can come in and give us an extra option then im all for it.

Besides look at the video, i know highlights can be misleading but some of those passes are world class, their is talent in him.
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