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Nicknames : The Canaries, The Yellows
Founded. 1902 : 118 years ago
Ground. Carrow Road
Capacity. 27,359
Owner. Delia Smith, Michael Wynn-Jones
Head coach. Daniel Farke
League. Premier League
2020–21 Position. Championship, 1st
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Norwich City sporting director Stuart Webber says the possibility of selling key players "doesn't scare" them as they prepare for the Premier League.

Playmakers Emi Buendia and Todd Cantwell - and right-back Max Aarons - have all been linked with summer moves.

But Webber says it would take a bid in excess of the £25m paid for Ben Godfrey last year for any of them to leave.

"It might be the end of the journey for some of them, it might be a club comes in that is off the scale," he said.

He added to BBC Look East: "One of them may go, maybe two or all three of them will go, who knows - but the facts are that this team isn't about one or two players. For us to be successful in the Premier League it's going to be how does the squad of 20 do, not if one player performs brilliantly.

"When we sold James Maddison [to Leicester] everyone thought it was the end of the world and then a guy called Emi Buendia turned up - when Ben Godfrey left [for Everton] it was the end of the world and a guy called Ben Gibson turned up, and that's football."
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Are Norwich City ready to lose yo-yo tag after fifth Premier League promotion?

Casual observers of the Championship could perhaps be forgiven for thinking 'here we go again' as Norwich City sealed promotion to the Premier League for a fifth time on Saturday.

The Canaries also reached the top flight in 2003-04, 2010-11, 2014-15 and 2018-19, suffering relegation at the first time of asking on three of those four occasions.

However, the Norfolk side have shown resilience to bounce back on each occasion and are this time likely to go up with more victories and points than ever before.

Delia only spent £5 million on the canaries squad last time they were promoted
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They’ll be fighting with Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton for the privilege of been the first team to be relegated
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Ratscoot wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 7:03 am They’ll be fighting with Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton for the privilege of been the first team to be relegated
And Palace too if they sell Zaha & take on Fwank as their new head coach :lol:
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1964white wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 7:10 am And Palace too if they sell Zaha & take on Fwank as their new head coach :lol:
Very true I forgot about them until I was writing a comment on the Villians thread :lol:
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Dont know if we have any Norwich fans on here but it would be interesting to get their thoughts on the likely sales going.on at Carrow Road.

Keep Buendia, Aarons and Cantwell when you get relegated but sell them when you win promotion?

So so weird,basically admitting that it was all about the money and you are happy to be a yoyo club.

Surely the fans cant like that?
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Cjay wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:48 am Dont know if we have any Norwich fans on here but it would be interesting to get their thoughts on the likely sales going.on at Carrow Road.

Keep Buendia, Aarons and Cantwell when you get relegated but sell them when you win promotion?

So so weird,basically admitting that it was all about the money and you are happy to be a yoyo club.

Surely the fans cant like that?
Seems like Delia is approaching the same policy as in previous seasons.

Norwich fans must feel terribly frustrated.

There'll come a time when they are relegated from the prem never to return with the possible prospect of relegation to League One.
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Cjay wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:48 am Dont know if we have any Norwich fans on here but it would be interesting to get their thoughts on the likely sales going.on at Carrow Road.

Keep Buendia, Aarons and Cantwell when you get relegated but sell them when you win promotion?

So so weird,basically admitting that it was all about the money and you are happy to be a yoyo club.

Surely the fans cant like that?
Not sure if I've missed something but none of cantwell, aarons and buendia have been sold?
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Stewart Webber said,...
He added to BBC Look East: "One of them may go, maybe two or all three of them will go, who knows - but the facts are that this team isn't about one or two players. For us to be successful in the Premier League it's going to be how does the squad of 20 do, not if one player performs brilliantly.
It does sound like the God is starting to have influence on how these people are starting to think ...
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I like Norwich's f**k the way it's done approach. They must be minted by now.
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Norwich City have walked towards the cliff and peered over the edge before.

It's not a place their sporting director Stuart Webber wants to take the club back to.

As the Canaries prepare to return to the Premier League after a season away, Webber has rejected the idea of spending heavily in the push for survival.

"You can spend £120m net and get relegated. That's been proven more than once," said Webber.

"We can't go all in now just to try to stay up for one season because, if we get relegated, we're in deep, deep trouble.

"You can do that if you have a rich benefactor who says: 'Spend £100m - if it goes wrong, then I can actually afford to write that off.' We don't have that.

"Our version of that would be to go into administration. We can't take that risk."

'We're not sitting here on a load of money'

Norwich have bounced between the top two divisions over the past decade - promoted to the Premier League in 2011, 2015, 2019 and 2021, and relegated to the Championship in 2014, 2016 and 2020.

Daniel Farke's side are back in the top flight after winning the Championship, but memories of financial turmoil will stop them overspending.

Norwich have come through perilous financial situations before, most notably coming close to ruin after relegation from the Premier League in 1995. They managed to survive with co-owners Delia Smith, the celebrity chef, and her husband Michael Wynn Jones at the helm.

A relegation to League One in 2009 saw debts stack up to £23m and a brush with going into administration, before a restructuring and back-to-back promotions restored financial equity.

Webber says the club "would look very different today" if they had not sold midfielder James Maddison to Leicester City for about £20m and Josh Murphy to Cardiff City for about £11m in 2018 to help their financial situation.

Webber has previously said the club would have been in a "dire" position without those sales.

Norwich now work within a model of being self-sufficient and, while they have been promoted to the Premier League on more of an "even keel" this time around, they would be in a "really great position" if it was not for the "£30m-plus that Covid has cost" them.

"We are not sitting here on a load of money," said Webber. "There's a massive myth that goes around about the Premier League, where everyone thinks we've now got £170m just dropped in and someone has written a cheque for us. They haven't.

"We can only work within the parameters that we've got. It's not like we're sitting here with £100m in the bank and we don't want to spend it because we're tight-fisted.

"We're not spending it because we haven't got it. It's not a choice - it is what it is."

'If we do sell one, it's going to be a club record deal'

Nevertheless, Norwich's approach of working within their means will see them turn the loans of defenders Ben Gibson and Dimitris Giannoulis into permanent deals for about £15m.

More funding could be generated if Emiliano Buendia, Todd Cantwell and Max Aarons are sold, but none of them will go cheaply. They will cost at least £30m each, says Webber.

"If we do sell one, it's going to be a club record deal," he said.

"It's probably going to start with a number three in front of it and that will give us great opportunities to maybe make the whole better as well. We're really relaxed on that front."

Ultimately, Webber knows it will take "perfect work" during the transfer window to build a squad for Farke that is capable of surviving in the Premier League, but he takes "inspiration from Burnley" as a club able to achieve that "with little ownership investment".

"They are a very similar model to us and the work that [Burnley manager] Sean Dyche, his staff and the club have done is beyond exceptional," said Webber.

"Burnley have been there about eight years and it's been up, down, up, and each time they have built the club step by step.

"I'm sure if you asked the guys up there, they would say it's been extremely difficult, and we're under no illusions it is going to be extremely difficult.

"But that's our aim and that's what we have to try to do."
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Norwich have announced the signing of Kosovan winger Milot Rashica from Werder Bremen for around £9.5mil.

Pretty decent record overall in the Bundesliga.

21 goals and 17 assists in what amounts to 63 matches of minutes.

Interestingly Villa have been chasing him since they won promotion and the guy didnt want to join Villa because he didnt want to be fighting relegation.

Clearlyhas lowered his standards
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from what i've seen from their athletic writer: they had agreements (like with Buendia) to let them go if a certain price was met even after promotion.

With Rashica, think it was widely accepted in villa circles last summer that we were in for him but he "didn't want to go to a relegation battle" and Bremen got relegated this year and just moved to Norwich. Will be a good signing for them tbh.
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Norwich City have signed French midfielder Pierre Lees-Melou from Nice for about £3.5m.

Lees-Melou, 28, joins the Canaries, who returned to the Premier League by winning the Championship last season, on a three-year deal.

He made 29 league appearances for Nice last season, scoring four goals, as they finished ninth in Ligue 1.


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Delia spending more cash this time.
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1964white wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:26 pm Delia spending more cash this time.
Probably about to sell another player...
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weasel wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:39 pm Probably about to sell another player...
Maybe the case :tup:
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It is just a staggering lack of ambition by Norwich to get promoted and sell their players. The yo-yoers may well receive parachute payments but their revenue for being in the championship, especially for matches chosen for tv will be much less plus the prize money they will lose out as the winners of the championship get far less prize money than even the bottom team in the prem gets.

Must be so frustrating being a Norwich fan with their boards lack of ambition.
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weasel wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:39 pm It is just a staggering lack of ambition by Norwich to get promoted and sell their players. The yo-yoers may well receive parachute payments but their revenue for being in the championship, especially for matches chosen for tv will be much less plus the prize money they will lose out as the winners of the championship get far less prize money than even the bottom team in the prem gets.

Must be so frustrating being a Norwich fan with their boards lack of ambition.
Their fans actively celebrate and applaud it as well. Zero ambition from anyone connected with them.
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