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United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:29 pm
by John in Louisiana
Thank you to one and all for not piling on re: the national disgrace that is unfolding in my country.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:34 pm
by 1964white
Trump should be arrested for enticement

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 pm
by Smudge3920
John in Louisiana wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:29 pm Thank you to one and all for not piling on re: the national disgrace that is unfolding in my country.
Nothing but empathy from me mate... but things looking up now... Dems have control of both the Senate & Congress... so in the next 2 years should be able to establish a lot of normalcy for you... :tup:

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:57 pm
by Ron Swanson
The Republican Party died with John McCain.

I don’t see why anyone would support a candidate who lost by a fair margin, who seems hell bent on reversing the outcome.

It reminds me of Don King trying to overturn the Mike Tyson KO loss against Buster Douglas.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:14 pm
by gessa
After yesterday's events, Mexico have unanimously decided they will pay for the wall and Canada are wanting one too

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:22 pm
by Smudge3920
gessa wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:14 pm After yesterday's events, Mexico have unanimously decided they will pay for the wall and Canada are wanting one too
Will have to wait mate ...we are still building one around Quebec... :P

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:27 pm
by gessa
Smudge3920 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:22 pm Will have to wait mate ...we are still building one around Quebec... :P
Had the displeasure of sharing a mini bus with some French Canadians once. Awful people

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:35 pm
by White Riot
Donald Trump still making America great again ;-)

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 pm
by Ron Swanson
gessa wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:27 pm Had the displeasure of sharing a mini bus with some French Canadians once. Awful people
Is life in that part of Canada much like life in Bradford?

With two communities essentially with their backs to one another?

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:39 pm
by gessa
Ron Swanson wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 pm Is life in that part of Canada much like life in Bradford?

With two communities essentially with their backs to one another?
As far as I know I'd never met a Canadian before but I hope to God they're not all like those feckers that day.

But what I heard, the F C's have a reputation.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:45 pm
by Smudge3920
Ron Swanson wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 pm Is life in that part of Canada much like life in Bradford?

With two communities essentially with their backs to one another?
gessa wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:39 pm

As far as I know I'd never met a Canadian before but I hope to God they're not all like those feckers that day.

But what I heard, the F C's have a reputation.
Its more a case of the Quebeccers feel they are entitled to everything, and thanks to the current PM's Dad they pretty well have rules and benefits that the rest of Canada do not...As is always the case gessa, there are some good 'uns amongst them, but overall they have a reputation for arrogance and selfishness... to this day if you visit Quebec and you speak in English the majority of the time they will ignore you.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:23 pm
by LUFC_BOS
John in Louisiana wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:29 pm Thank you to one and all for not piling on re: the national disgrace that is unfolding in my country.
Not good John. Hope this is the depth of insanity and some sense comes back.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:16 pm
by HarryofOz
It was really sad to see, but almost inevitable having been egged on by Trump, Giuliani and others ever since the election day.

As an aside (but related) there are a couple things that I find bewildering.

Firstly that the Senate and Congress can (and some tried) to overturn the votes of the electorate.

Secondly that even after Trump (or any other sitting President) is defeated in a Presidential election they can continue to govern the country for over two months.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:22 pm
by HarryofOz
There's always a chance to introduce some humour

Doing the rounds (in various languages) on Twitter

Due to travel restrictions, the USA is organising a coup at home this time.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:17 am
by John in Louisiana
HarryofOz wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:16 pm It was really sad to see, but almost inevitable having been egged on by Trump, Giuliani and others ever since the election day.

As an aside (but related) there are a couple things that I find bewildering.

Firstly that the Senate and Congress can (and some tried) to overturn the votes of the electorate.

Secondly that even after Trump (or any other sitting President) is defeated in a Presidential election they can continue to govern the country for over two months.
The first is a leftover from the days of reconstruction after the Civil War when black people first got the vote. In the US each state has a certain number of electoral votes and awards all of them to the presidential candidate who carries the state. The electors casting these votes are actual people. In the 1870's black votes helped deliver Southern states to the Republican Party (then the more liberal of the two). As a result, white people banded together to send alternative groups of electors to Washington to vie to have their electoral votes counted in Congress. The law, therefore, gave Congress the authority to approve or deny particular groups.

The second is a result of the fact that the constitution was written in the 18th century when it took a long time for states to tabulate their votes, name their electors, and get them to Washington. That's why the election is held the first Tuesday in November but the electoral votes aren't counted officially in Washington until January 6th and the president isn't inaugurated until the 20th.

Changing the date of the inauguration would require a constitutional amendment, and that's very hard to accomplish, requiring approval of two-thirds of the various state legislatures.

None of this has ever been an issue until now. This is what happens when you have an amoral, narcissistic, authoritarian blowhard for a president. These institutions work only when everyone buys in and agrees to abide by the rules.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:33 am
by HarryofOz
John in Louisiana wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:17 am The first is a leftover from the days of reconstruction after the Civil War when black people first got the vote. In the US each state has a certain number of electoral votes and awards all of them to the presidential candidate who carries the state. The electors casting these votes are actual people. In the 1870's black votes helped deliver Southern states to the Republican Party (then the more liberal of the two). As a result, white people banded together to send alternative groups of electors to Washington to vie to have their electoral votes counted in Congress. The law, therefore, gave Congress the authority to approve or deny particular groups.

The second is a result of the fact that the constitution was written in the 18th century when it took a long time for states to tabulate their votes, name their electors, and get them to Washington. That's why the election is held the first Tuesday in November but the electoral votes aren't counted officially in Washington until January 6th and the president isn't inaugurated until the 20th.

Changing the date of the inauguration would require a constitutional amendment, and that's very hard to accomplish, requiring approval of two-thirds of the various state legislatures.

None of this has ever been an issue until now. This is what happens when you have an amoral, narcissistic, authoritarian blowhard for a president. These institutions work only when everyone buys in and agrees to abide by the rules.
Thanks for the explanation JiL

As you say it hasn't created an issue in the past because the Presidents (regardless of their politics) have been mature adults.

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:40 am
by John in Louisiana
HarryofOz wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:22 pm There's always a chance to introduce some humour

Doing the rounds (in various languages) on Twitter

Due to travel restrictions, the USA is organising a coup at home this time.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:51 am
by The Subhuman
Is this Salvation becoming fact and if so is there a f**k off Asteroid about to hit?

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:20 am
by White Riot
HarryofOz wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:22 pm There's always a chance to introduce some humour

Doing the rounds (in various languages) on Twitter

Due to travel restrictions, the USA is organising a coup at home this time.
Yeah, so much material in this event it's an incredible opportunity :lol:

Makes sense the CIA was involved = Operation Wrong 'Un ;-)

Re: United States of Ameristan

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:22 am
by White Riot
Eric Clapton's got a new single out.

I shot the Senate, but I did not shoot the House of Representatives.
I shagged the Sheryl, but I did not shag the debutantes