Big six proposal - Unbelievable or not!!!!

[Mick Jones shoulder]

I'm happy with the ridicule they will face. Expect fines plus points deduction if it doesn't happen then they all know to plan better next time.

[Mountain]

It's a huge conundrum now. Whilst I agree that fans and players should not be penalised for the decisions the owners of these clubs made, they absolutely must be punished in a meaningful way. What that is, I don't know. BUT it has to be remembered that fans and players are not at fault when teams go into administration and receive points deductions, so there's no excuse not to go down the points deduction route here. I think the league's and associations will be scared to overly-punish them, as at the end of the day, they still hold a lot of power when it comes to generating income for aforementioned leagues and associations.

Leeds fans and players were punished for decisions made in the boardroom, I don't see why these should be treated differently.

For me, a 15 points deduction would suffice. Maybe 12 points for City and Chelsea.

[Irish Ian]

Cant see any punishment.

[The Subhuman]

Comparisons to American football don't work. The only league lower than the NFL is college football, and the players there can play professionally ONLY in the NFL. The owners hold all the cards. The draft system works because the players have no options.

But even with that system, the NFL is far from competitive. Only twenty of the 32 teams have ever won a Super Bowl, and six have won only once. Four teams have never even gotten to the championship game.

Kudos to the millions of fans around Europe - and in England in particular - who are rising up to put a stop to this monstrous project.

And English football is vastly superior to the American version.

And how many of the clubs that have played in the premiership won the premiership? MU/LIV/CHE/MC/LEI/ARS and Blackburn ? ..I've googled that's of 49 clubs ...so 14% ish. v over 50% of NFL franchises. Sound to me like the NFl is way more competitive, plus winning your division is a thing and the AFC CG and NFC CG is also a championship ..

[Lumiukko]

Leeds fans and players were punished for decisions made in the boardroom, I don't see why these should be treated differently.

For me, a 15 points deduction would suffice. Maybe 12 points for City and Chelsea.

I agree Mountain. If Administration results in a punishment to players and most importantly fans, then this utter contempt for the game by these six clubs needs to be punished. Sadly, it won't happen or a slap on the wrist and that's it.

[whiteswan]

All six English clubs now pulled out
What utter t**ts. Oh boy, how sweet is this

[whiteswan]

We could go down in history as the only team to play a European Super League team!

Indeed we are Velo....well spotted

Liddypool, masters of the Euro Super League, draw at Elland Road

[whiteswan]

So proud to be English tonight. English fans stuck two fingers up at bigwig corporate, greedy, out of touch, slimy, vile, sleazy, underhand, unpleasant, corrupt, excuses for human beings. Well done all you footy fans wherever you are!

[Currie14]

Maybe these owners should be made to resit the 'fit & proper' ownership test .

Reading between the lines of one of the club's statements it looks like pressure from sponsors ('Stakeholders') might have been the tipping point, money talks afterall..........

[Cjay]

Cant see any points deduction happening but what should happen imo is a very hefty fine and a European ban for next season.

No Champions league, no Europa league.

Also any cup competitions they are all still in should be stopped. Kick them out of the League Cup, FA Cup, Europa League and Champions League for this season

The Premier league title in Cities case should be void, they may finish 1st but no parade, no trophy presentation, it should be ignored as if it never happened.

And read that the founding clubs of that super league were guaranteed between £213mil and £130mil so lets say an average of £170mil (be kind will round it down) that should be the fine amount per club.

£170million each.

Until its paid place each club under a transfer embargo and withhold any monies owed for tv rights or Premier league participation or prize money etc.

They get nothing until its paid and for every 30days that passes add 10% of the unpaid amount on.

If it isn't paid within 12months use the tv money , take that as part payment. Then continue the cycle for another 12 months and take again if unpaid (still under a transfer embargo).

Hit those owners where it hurts, in the wallet.

And eventually when the money is paid ( should be about £1billion) split it 75/25 in the EFL's favour with the Prem.

Andhow do the justify this? By using the same vague ruling they screwed us over with.

The good faith law.

If plotting behind the backs of your fellow clubs isnt a breach of that rule then lord knows what is.

[Currie14]

“What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city. It’s a small boy clambering up stadium steps for the very first time, gripping his father’s hand, gawping at that hallowed stretch of turf beneath him and, without being able to do a thing about it, falling in love.” Sir Bobby Robson

[1964white]

I'm feeling a sense of relief this morning

Football is back!

[HarryofOz]

Great news. I honestly thought that it would go ahead despite the immediate backlash. Well done to all those who fought this abomination, especially players at the clubs involved.

[HarryofOz]

Spurs will release a DVD of their 48 hours in the ESL on Friday, available from the clubshop.

[HarryofOz]

The driving force behind this plan was money. With many of the clubs being massively in debt.

Solution, cut costs by reducing the size of their massive squads and/or pay the players less. If players leave, then fans should accept that as part of the plan to make football sane again.

[Peter in Blackpool]

What if scenario

Ok...so we currenlty sit at 12 teams that have accepted, with a further 3 teams(TBA) to make up the founding 15... a further 5 qualifiers will round of the 20 to realise the competition...
It is my understanding that the "original 15" are guarenteed entry every year... So what if...

Lets say Leeds are one of the qualifiers... we win it... what happens next...

1. Will Leeds be given automatic entry to defend there title the following year? and that will only allow 4 further qualifiers?
or...
2. Will they have to requalify again to be able to defend thier title?

I personally think this will die a death (hopefully) but it raises so many questions and problems.
The teams that have already accepted, have already broken their contracts with the Prem, FA, EUFA & FIFA hence the already filed court actions by these super league pirates...the Prem, FA, EUFA and FIFA have to really have the gonads for this fight... no backing down...MOT

more to the point, what if one of the founding members hit a bad patch like we did with ridsdale.

what if they kept coming bottom, and the owners just pocketed the 100 million? and they just played kids?

would they still be guaranteed entry?

Talking of money, surely this money must ultimately come from the fans, but if they do not like it and dont spend their money it will not fall from the skies.

all academic now as it seems to have evapporated

[danhirons]

Don't want to see any point deductions or european expulsion for the six - maybe fines at most. Let's not make the divide or resentment bigger.

Great news all round though

[danhirons]

Cant see any points deduction happening but what should happen imo is a very hefty fine and a European ban for next season.

No Champions league, no Europa league.

Also any cup competitions they are all still in should be stopped. Kick them out of the League Cup, FA Cup, Europa League and Champions League for this season

The Premier league title in Cities case should be void, they may finish 1st but no parade, no trophy presentation, it should be ignored as if it never happened.

And read that the founding clubs of that super league were guaranteed between £213mil and £130mil so lets say an average of £170mil (be kind will round it down) that should be the fine amount per club.

£170million each.

Until its paid place each club under a transfer embargo and withhold any monies owed for tv rights or Premier league participation or prize money etc.

They get nothing until its paid and for every 30days that passes add 10% of the unpaid amount on.

If it isn't paid within 12months use the tv money , take that as part payment. Then continue the cycle for another 12 months and take again if unpaid (still under a transfer embargo).

Hit those owners where it hurts, in the wallet.

And eventually when the money is paid ( should be about £1billion) split it 75/25 in the EFL's favour with the Prem.

Andhow do the justify this? By using the same vague ruling they screwed us over with.

The good faith law.

If plotting behind the backs of your fellow clubs isnt a breach of that rule then lord knows what is.

If this happened why wouldn't they just go back to the Super League?

also none of them signed up to the ESL with the thought that they would have to leave their domestic leagues - it was seen more as an add on to the champions league

[Leeds1000]

You have to laugh at the MU statement about Ed Woodward stepping down instantly but will stay on at the club until the end of the season when he was due to leave anyway. They treat fans like pieces of meat....What was it the middle class media luvvies called Brexit voters..
Oh yeah that was it. Red Faced Pigs. Gammon!

[YorkshireSquare]

They may be out, but they aren't forgiven. They tried to take over our game, for the second time in 12 months, they will try it again! Punish them, fine them, deduct points, withhold broadcast revenues, transfer embargos!