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MB being honest to a fault again ...interesting post....

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Paddy could easily be on 18 goals, has had two good goals ruled out by VAR that should have been given.
Unlike some strikers high on the scorers list he hasn't boosted his total by taking all our penalties (just one I recall).

One helluva season first year up especially when you add the chances he creates for others.

Last few weeks drought is definately the supply lines not Paddy losing form.
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whiteroseboy wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 7:56 am Paddy could easily be on 18 goals, has had two good goals ruled out by VAR that should have been given.
Unlike some strikers high on the scorers list he hasn't boosted his total by taking all our penalties (just one I recall).

One helluva season first year up especially when you add the chances he creates for others.

Last few weeks drought is definately the supply lines not Paddy losing form.
Fully agree with all this...
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whiteroseboy wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 7:56 am Paddy could easily be on 18 goals, has had two good goals ruled out by VAR that should have been given.
Unlike some strikers high on the scorers list he hasn't boosted his total by taking all our penalties (just one I recall).

One helluva season first year up especially when you add the chances he creates for others.

Last few weeks drought is definately the supply lines not Paddy losing form.
I think his form has dropped - 4 goals in 19 games, and Raph was playing in most of those games. If the drought was over the last 5 or 6 games then the lack of service argument would be more convincing.

His drop in form is probably partly due to exhaustion, though he has always been a streaky striker. It's simply asking too much to play a lone striker formation all season whilst playing Bielsaball and using the same striker for an entire season. This is where the 'Bielsa burnout ' theories have an element of truth in them. Klich and Bamford are probably both pretty burnt out by now - though with Klich it probably means the end of his Leeds career. Playing Bielsaball for 3 seasons may well have shortened Klich's career in fact - most of the players at the club who are 30 years old plus tend to spend most of the season injured, with Rodrigo being the latest example.
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Think Paddy has scored from the spot three times according to my notes
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I think now Rodrigo is fit we could see Bamford substituted more in preparation for next season? Paddy as left it all on the field this season, he couldn't give anymore in terms of work rate for the team.
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Leeds1000 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 10:05 am I think now Rodrigo is fit we could see Bamford substituted more in preparation for next season? Paddy as left it all on the field this season, he couldn't give anymore in terms of work rate for the team.
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faaip wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:34 am Think Paddy has scored from the spot three times according to my notes
We have scored 3 times from the spot, Klich twice (Fulham & West Ham) Paddy once versus Burnley.
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From the very reliable David Ornstein.

Paddy has had his contract extended by a year, 2023 now.

He has admirers including Liverpool with Klopp a known fan.

Would you sell?

If so how much for?
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If we're offered a ridiculous sum I'd sell otherwise a very good option off the bench for me.
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A perfect response from you Faaip...consistant :P ... IMO it would be foolish to let someone who knows MB's system so well and contributes so much, and (again IMO) has earned his starting position next season go.
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faaip wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:14 am If we're offered a ridiculous sum I'd sell otherwise a very good option off the bench for me.
I actually think the opposite, start him and let him run the centre backs into the ground for an hour or so then introduce the likes of Rodrigo for last half hour would be a excellent plan.

Would rest Paddy with less time on pitch keeping him fresh and someone like Rodrigo would find lots of space to exploit against a tiring defence.
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Smudge3920 wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:19 am A perfect response from you Faaip...consistant :P ... IMO it would be foolish to let someone who knows MB's system so well and contributes so much, and (again IMO) has earned his starting position next season go.
I still don't see a top premiership player there. But I'll keep shtum because I know I can't argue that here without recourse. I know I've tried
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faaip wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 1:33 pm I still don't see a top premiership player there. But I'll keep shtum because I know I can't argue that here without recourse. I know I've tried
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I know what you mean faaip sometimes he does look like that but he is only getting better each season. Next season should be fun
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Bamford surprised most of the Leeds fan base this season.
I think most of us expected Rodrigo to be ahead of him but what does Bamford do? Scores in the first three games of the season. Hard to drop a striker who does that.
I think Bielsa has what he considers a model player, someone who genuinely wants to improve his game and who will do everything the manager wants of him.
However he doesn't create enough for others and I think that that could on the long run see him usurped at Leeds.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 2:17 pm Bamford surprised most of the Leeds fan base this season.
I think most of us expected Rodrigo to be ahead of him but what does Bamford do? Scores in the first three games of the season. Hard to drop a striker who does that.
I think Bielsa has what he considers a model player, someone who genuinely wants to improve his game and who will do everything the manager wants of him.
However he doesn't create enough for others and I think that that could on the long run see him usurped at Leeds.
Have to disagree I am afraid...he creates lots for others with his play by drawing away defenders, he has what 5 assists, unselfishly for a striker with a couple... 2 really bad var offside decisions against him...he could very easily be on 20 gioals this year , but as you say a model team player ...
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faaip wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 1:33 pm I still don't see a top premiership player there. But I'll keep shtum because I know I can't argue that here without recourse. I know I've tried
I agree actually i dont think he is a top Premier league striker.

I dont think his finishing is good enough.

But how much do you pay for a top Premier league striker now?

£50,60,70,80mil?

How many top level Premier league players do we have in truth?

Raph?

Probably about it really atm.
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Smudge3920 wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 2:24 pm Have to disagree I am afraid...he creates lots for others with his play by drawing away defenders, he has what 5 assists, unselfishly for a striker with a couple... 2 really bad var offside decisions against him...he could very easily be on 20 gioals this year , but as you say a model team player ...
Bielsa said the same about him.
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Cjay wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 2:29 pm I agree actually i dont think he is a top Premier league striker.

I dont think his finishing is good enough.

But how much do you pay for a top Premier league striker now?

£50,60,70,80mil?

How many top level Premier league players do we have in truth?

Raph?

Probably about it really atm.
I think Llorente and Koch would play in most Prem sides Cjay. As would Phillips.

As for Bamford the quality of some of his goals this season have been top drawer, Leicester away, Villa are the best I can recall.
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