Anticipating contact is exactly what diving is...Otherwise you play till or through contact.Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:58 pm Sadly the prem league ...well the FA allow it...Even though it is against the rules and spirit of the game... it is so hypocritical you have pundits calling out Luke for diving because there was no contact, yet when the untouchables Kane, Salah etc etc do it, it is called creative and skillful, even with the slightest touch ... In Luke's defence he was coming in hard and I think he anticipated some heavy contact... the right call was made by the ref, which is not what happens with the untouchables ...
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Re: Luke Ayling
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Well said Leon, sometimes we are too quick to slag players off after a bad day at the office....
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We're all guilty of it in our summaries & reports Swannie
I don't rate Roberts he frustrates the hell out of me, has too many bad/average days at the office as far as I'm concerned. whereas Ayling rarely lets us down, love his energy, workrate & attitude
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Not by me mate.......1964white wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:11 pm We're all guilty of it in our summaries & reports Swannie
I don't rate Roberts he frustrates the hell out of me, has too many bad/average days at the office as far as I'm concerned. whereas Ayling rarely lets us down, love his energy, workrate & attitude
Not Tyler's fault as I believe the Premier League is above his level. I'll probably get shot for having that opinion.
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Why would he be trying to get out of the way? Undoubtedly a dive however you may try to justify it.Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:25 pm not if you are trying to get out the way... The defender was coming in hard...pulled his leg back at the last second
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Ayling gets to play in his position most of the time whereas Roberts is learning a new one and probably the hardest position to play, I have no doubt he's a better striker than Bamford. Wouldn't even need to think about it.
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But Bielsa rates both highly so that's what matters at the end of the day, he's seldom wrong
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Not trying to justify it at all... I agreed it was a dive as no contact,and the ref got it right... my point was if the defender had not been as quick thinking as he was by pulling his leg back he would have smashed him, then it would have been a penalty ...so in fact the defender drew the dive
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er.. just noSmudge3920 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:46 pm Not trying to justify it at all... I agreed it was a dive as no contact,and the ref got it right... my point was if the defender had not been as quick thinking as he was by pulling his leg back he would have smashed him, then it would have been a penalty ...so in fact the defender drew the dive
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Because it's a fanciful notion ..draw the dive?
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...So you are saying that if he had not drawn his leg away "(The defender) just in time, and he smahed into Luke , who didnt have the ball...it would not be a penalty ?... I have drawn many penalties ..on the football field, rugby field and at Ice Hockey ... none by diving , just making the other player react...
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You can draw a pen, you cannot draw a dive..
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Re: Luke Ayling
Ayling thought he was going to get tackled so reacted as if he was tackled but he wasnt tackled.
Only one person faked a movement and he was playing for us.
Only one person faked a movement and he was playing for us.
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Re: Luke Ayling
Not sure why that's funny..
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Luke Ayling vs. Everton:
98 touches (joint-most)
55/71 succ. passes (2nd-most)
46 opp. half passes
17/27 final third passes
6 touches in opp box
5 duels won
4 recoveries
3 chances created (2nd-most)
2 aerial duels won
2/3 succ. crosses
2 clearances
1 succ. take-on
1 shot
98 touches (joint-most)
55/71 succ. passes (2nd-most)
46 opp. half passes
17/27 final third passes
6 touches in opp box
5 duels won
4 recoveries
3 chances created (2nd-most)
2 aerial duels won
2/3 succ. crosses
2 clearances
1 succ. take-on
1 shot