Newcastle United Thread

For everything Leeds United related and everything not - Have your say... the Marching on Together way!
Forum rules
Please be sure you are acquainted with the forum rules outlined within our FAQs.

Help support the site by using our Amazon Affiliate link when making any purchases from Amazon.
Locked
Mountain
First Team
First Team
Posts: 2285
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:20 am

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Mountain »

Pope to Leeds was never ever going to happen.

(i) Leeds will never make a sub keeper one of their highest paid players
(ii) A keeper looking to the World Cup will never be warming a bench at a club with ambitions to get into mid table
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

Lets go with no back-up keeper, DM, AM & striker as we did last season & see where it takes us 🙄

Only our board & certain Leeds fans on here would refuse to sign players better than what we already ard have at the club.
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

Mountain wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:17 am Pope to Leeds was never ever going to happen.

(i) Leeds will never make a sub keeper one of their highest paid players
(ii) A keeper looking to the World Cup will never be warming a bench at a club with ambitions to get into mid table
He cost only £10m ffs.

We need serious competition in that position not a kid wet behind his ears, it would enhance Meslier's career whose confidence must have been shot at times last season.
User avatar
The Subhuman
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 68892
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by The Subhuman »

1964white wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:02 am He cost only £10m ffs.

We need serious competition in that position not a kid wet behind his ears, it would enhance Meslier's career whose confidence must have been shot at times last season.
and his wages ? Casilla is the back up right now, hardly wet between the ears and MOTM last time he started
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open"
Mountain
First Team
First Team
Posts: 2285
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:20 am

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Mountain »

1964white wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:02 am He cost only £10m ffs.
His weekly salary is the issue. They would have to hose money at him to persuade him that sitting on a bench at a lower table club is a good move in a WC year.
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:12 am and his wages ? Casilla is the back up right now, hardly wet between the ears and MOTM last time he started
Well that thought feeds me with the utmost confidence :roll: lets hope Meslier features in all 38 games next season then.
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

Mountain wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:24 am His weekly salary is the issue. They would have to hose money at him to persuade him that sitting on a bench at a lower table club is a good move in a WC year.
Shame we've wasted so much money on dirge in the past.
User avatar
The Subhuman
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 68892
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by The Subhuman »

1964white wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:33 am Well that thought feeds me with the utmost confidence :roll: lets hope Meslier features in all 38 games next season then.
Casilla has been good a lot more times than he's been bad. Lets not forget it was Cooper's error not Kiko's that cost us v Derby. There have been a couple more incidences but no worse than Meslier who's errors probably cost us 4/5 goals last season. Kiko is a better shot stopper in my opinion. Meslier better on set pieces. Pope had a good season so unlikely to repeat that form next
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open"
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:38 am Casilla has been good a lot more times than he's been bad. Lets not forget it was Cooper's error not Kiko's that cost us v Derby. There have been a couple more incidences but no worse than Meslier who's errors probably cost us 4/5 goals last season. Kiko is a better shot stopper in my opinion. Meslier better on set pieces. Pope had a good season so unlikely to repeat that form next
PL strikers would have a field day v bandy legs.
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

Muppet the Cat wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:11 am At the moment (imo) Pope is the better Keeper.
Imagine not signing Salah, Messi, Jota, etc because we already have Patrick Bamford :roll:
User avatar
The Subhuman
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 68892
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by The Subhuman »

Muppet the Cat wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:11 am At the moment (imo) Pope is the better Keeper.
It's a coin toss, a 10M plus wages coin toss.. Meslier had to perform behind a different defence every week, not sure the same could be said for Pope plus tbh I didn't see every Burnley game last season.. I'm sure he made mistakes. I'm also wondering why with all the great players they have, better than ours apparently, they got relegated..
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open"
User avatar
Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 36046
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Cjay »

Pope would have been a great signing for us.

Southampton had Alex McCartney,Fraser Foster and Angus Gunn at one point.

Newcastle now have Nick Pope, Martin Dubravka and Karl Darlow.

It's not uncommon to have 2 genuine number 1 quality goalkeepers.

I'd have taken Pope for £10mil over Meslier id also take Dubravka.
Signed

King Cjay

Fountain of all knowledge and wisdom
User avatar
Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 36046
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Cjay »

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:17 pm It's a coin toss, a 10M plus wages coin toss.. Meslier had to perform behind a different defence every week, not sure the same could be said for Pope plus tbh I didn't see every Burnley game last season.. I'm sure he made mistakes. I'm also wondering why with all the great players they have, better than ours apparently, they got relegated..
Burnley had the 10th best defence there problem was at the other end.

Nick Pope was brilliant for them last season especially near the end of the season.

Similar to Pickford at Everton.

Both of them were brilliant.
Signed

King Cjay

Fountain of all knowledge and wisdom
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:17 pm It's a coin toss, a 10M plus wages coin toss.. Meslier had to perform behind a different defence every week, not sure the same could be said for Pope plus tbh I didn't see every Burnley game last season.. I'm sure he made mistakes. I'm also wondering why with all the great players they have, better than ours apparently, they got relegated..
Burnley were playing without their two main CBs in five of their last six games, defence wasn't their problem, lack of scoring goals was the reason they were relegated.

Burnley have four decent players worth consideration, three now.
User avatar
The Subhuman
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 68892
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by The Subhuman »

But both played behind settled defences ... there's really no proof either of theses are so much better than Meslier
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open"
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

Cjay wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:21 pm Pope would have been a great signing for us.

Southampton had Alex McCartney,Fraser Foster and Angus Gunn at one point.

Newcastle now have Nick Pope, Martin Dubravka and Karl Darlow.

It's not uncommon to have 2 genuine number 1 quality goalkeepers.

I'd have taken Pope for £10mil over Meslier id also take Dubravka.
The Leeds mentality, Cjay.

Even a section of our fans are brainwashed.
User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 145042
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by 1964white »

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:26 pm But both played behind settled defences ... there's really no proof either of theses are so much better than Meslier
So we have a problem with our injury-prone defence?
User avatar
Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 36046
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Cjay »

faaip wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:26 pm But both played behind settled defences ... there's really no proof either of theses are so much better than Meslier
Maybe not so much better but as purely goalkeepers making saves and commanding areas I'd say Nick Pope is.

Had a higher save percentage than Meslier last season as well.

Not knocking Msslierhe was badly exposed last season but imo Pope would have been worth an extra few points.
Signed

King Cjay

Fountain of all knowledge and wisdom
User avatar
Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 36046
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Cjay »

1964white wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:27 pm The Leeds mentality, Cjay.

Even a section of our fans are brainwashed.
Loyalty tbf nothing wrong with that.
Signed

King Cjay

Fountain of all knowledge and wisdom
Mountain
First Team
First Team
Posts: 2285
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:20 am

Re: Newcastle United Thread

Post by Mountain »

As we are getting carried away plucking names from thin air, frankly I'd rather Donnarumma as back up.

But just like Nick Pope, he has given no indication that he wants to come to Leeds, there is no suggestion Leeds could meet his wage expectations to stick him on the bench, and it's really just idle speculation.
Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Carrick Dave, Finnatic, Madron, Onemanstanding, Pullhard, Semrush [Bot] and 653 guests