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Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:25 pm
by Kennyb41
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:32 pm
by GreennWhite
So you dont think Messi is idolised in Barcelona ?
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:32 pm
by Jaydog
GreennWhite wrote: βSun Aug 20, 2023 4:32 pm
So you dont think Messi is idolised in Barcelona ?
Heβs been sucked in
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:41 pm
by geronimo
GreennWhite wrote: βSun Aug 20, 2023 4:32 pm
So you dont think Messi is idolised in Barcelona ?
Yes but Barcelona are a huge club , Messi as been surrounded by top players all his career
Napoli were a poor impoverished club when maradona went there , they ain't won a carrot before he went there he , dragged them up virtually single handedly
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:41 pm
by Cjay
geronimo wrote: βSun Aug 20, 2023 4:24 pm
Messi is a great player and worshipped in Argentina, but maradona is idolised not only in Argentina but in Naples as well
Maradona was unique and different gravy
Imagine Messi is pretty popular at the far more famous and successful Barcelona tbf . . . . Just a hunch
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:48 pm
by geronimo
Cjay wrote: βSun Aug 20, 2023 4:41 pm
Imagine Messi is pretty popular at the far more famous and successful Barcelona tbf . . . . Just a hunch
Exactly wining trophies is far easier to do at a club like Barcelona than it is at a club like Napoli that's why maradonas achievements are far more unique
It's like comparing Liverpool to a team that as won virtually nothing throughout their history
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:58 pm
by Cjay
geronimo wrote: βSun Aug 20, 2023 4:48 pm
Exactly wining trophies is far easier to do at a club like Barcelona than it is at a club like Napoli that's why maradonas achievements are far more unique
It's like comparing Liverpool to a team that as won virtually nothing throughout their history
Messi beats Maradona on every conceivable metric.
Trophies, goals, longevity,
But winning a few trophies for Napoli (who paid a world record fee, hardly impoverished) counts for more?
Nah.
Maradona had 7 or 8 years at the elite level.
Messi has been on the awards for the best player in the world (including again this year) for 18 years
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:06 pm
by geronimo
When maradona was playing they were far more world class players about , the pitches tackles conditions were far worse
Messi plays in a totally different era far more sanitised , pitches like bowling greens no knee high tackles etc Messi and Ronaldo after that your struggling
As far as ability and ball control are concerned Messi ain't in same League as maradona
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:57 pm
by Cjay
Will be awarded his 8th 15 years after his 1st this evening apparently.
Despite criticism R9, Eden Hazard, Thierry Henry, Pep Guardiola, Rodri, Olivier Giroud and more have all backed the GOAT to win.
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:10 pm
by Prisoner37
If anyone hasn't watched the film The Hand of God I would recommend it as a really good watch.
It is in Italian with subtitles. The film revolves around the early life of the director in Napoli. With the backdrop of Maradonna's time there.
An intriguing insight into the bonkers city of Napoli, a football mad, one team city, just like our own.
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:54 pm
by geronimo
Prisoner37 wrote: βMon Oct 30, 2023 5:10 pm
If anyone hasn't watched the film The Hand of God I would recommend it as a really good watch.
It is in Italian with subtitles. The film revolves around the early life of the director in Napoli. With the backdrop of Maradonna's time there.
An intriguing insight into the bonkers city of Napoli, a football mad, one team city, just like our own.
Yeah they ain't won a carrot
until maradona turned up Messi as been at top clubs all his career maradona did it at Napoli virtually single handedly he was different gravy
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:57 pm
by Jaydog
geronimo wrote: βMon Oct 30, 2023 5:54 pm
Yeah they ain't won a carrot
until maradona turned up Messi as been at top clubs all his career maradona did it at Napoli virtually single handedly he was different gravy
Are you saying Maradona was better than Messi?
Cjay will be here in a mo
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:02 pm
by geronimo
Jaydog wrote: βMon Oct 30, 2023 5:57 pm
Are you saying Maradona was better than Messi?
Cjay will be here in a mo
By a country mile fella
Like comparing bacon with steak
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:08 pm
by Jaydog
geronimo wrote: βMon Oct 30, 2023 6:02 pm
By a country mile fella
Like comparing bacon with steak
Iβm looking forward to your battle with Cjay.
Heβll be along sooner or later.
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:18 pm
by geronimo
Jaydog wrote: βMon Oct 30, 2023 6:08 pm
Iβm looking forward to your battle with Cjay.
Heβll be along sooner or later.
Ain't no battle said it ages ago read the thread difference of opinion that's all maradona could do things with a football Messi could only dream about
I respect his opinion but I can go farther back than he can
Messi is a great footballer don't get me wrong but maradona is a god in Argentina and naples
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:21 pm
by The Subhuman
Pele still the GOAT ... nothing's changed.
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:26 pm
by Jaydog
Impossible to compare eras for me.
So many variables at play.
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:35 pm
by Cjay
Graeme Souness who played against Maradona 5 times said Messi was the greatest ever.
When informed of this opinion by a journalist Sir Alex Ferguson agreed highlighting the longevity of The GOAT as a key factor.
That is good enough for me
15 years at the top is absolutely unparalleled
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Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:40 pm
by The Subhuman
Pele 18 years at the top
Re: Lionel Messi-Goated
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:42 pm
by Jaydog
And weβre off