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The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:11 am

Good Morning Everyone


Pawel Cibicki has taken a swipe at former boss Paul Heckingbottom following confirmation of his departure to Malmo on a six month loan.

He told Fotboll Skanalen: "It's clear that it's weird, because it wasn't going well for the team and they do not win many matches.

"Nevertheless, he [Heckingbottom] does not change, he runs with the same player all the time. If you do not win any matches, you must be able to make changes.

"I'm not saying I'd have made the team much better but changes must happen if you do not win."
Was he given a fair chance?





Leeds want to sign a goal keeper this week!!!

The two most likely candidates are Stockdale and Blackman.

The Chelsea keeper seems more likely as negotiations have well and truly broken down with Birmingham.





Vurnon Anita is set to stay at Elland Road next season according to Phil Hay. The YEP journo has said the the versaitile 29 year old who is still recovering from injury is likely be stay at LS11 next season as a squad player.

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by hector » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:25 am

Mornin

there is a good player in Cibicki, and I think he was right about Heckinarse.....

Don't want Stockdale (I went to school with a Stockdale and he was a prat, so mud sticks....)

anita is a bloody good player.... in his natural position, and not defence......
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:55 am

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Ellandback1 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:11 am
Good Morning Everyone


Pawel Cibicki has taken a swipe at former boss Paul Heckingbottom following confirmation of his departure to Malmo on a six month loan.

Was he given a fair chance

Vurnon Anita is set to stay at Elland Road next season according to Phil Hay. The YEP journo has said the the versaitile 29 year old who is still recovering from injury is likely be stay at LS11 next season as a squad player.
Good morning Matt

Had the big girl's blouse left his handbag in the dressing room maybe we'd have seen more performances we witnessed at Loftus Road. A one trick pony who couldn't handle the championship

As for Anita physically he doesn't look strong or good enough. I would love to be proved wrong but I have serious reservations on this fella

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by lufc1304 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:23 am

What Hector said! He's gone now, so we don't need to go over old ground, but FeckingArse really was a tool.

I, too, went to school with a Stockdale (he's still my best mate and his nephew plays rugby for Ireland!), but this particular one is not worth the wages he's supposedly looking. Know nothing about Blackman, to be honest. Personally, I'd like to see BPF given a proper run at it.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by Ratscoot » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:46 am

Am I the only one that didn’t go to school with him :roflmao:

However my son went to school with his cousin who got all his old boots for rugby/football so does that count :duno:

Anyways I felt when he was at Fulham he always came across as if he thought he was a far better player than he is, but I could be wrong, if he comes great as that gives us some experience, don’t know a thing about the other guy so can’t comment on him, but I do feel the Solicitor needs to be given game time as well so are either of the other options happy to sit on the bench?

I also think the Ginger Monk will do everything in his power to F us over so we’ll only get Stockdale if GM thinks he’s crap and we’ve over paid.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by Gandalf » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:43 am

"Player lays into coach who didn't pick him - Shock". I really hope that Victor enquired about Alfie Haaland's young lad whilst he was arranging the Cibicki deal with Molde. A swap would be good.

Not really keen on Stockdale. Would be happy with Blackman if there was a buy option.

Can't see where Anita would fit in. Bielsa likes wing backs, which Anita definitely isn't, and we have a load of central midfielders.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:38 am

hector wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:25 am
Mornin

there is a good player in Cibicki, and I think he was right about Heckinarse.....

Don't want Stockdale (I went to school with a Stockdale and he was a prat, so mud sticks....)

anita is a bloody good player.... in his natural position, and not defence......
Morning Hector.

Anita is very lightweight, there's nothing of him, at DM, is he not going to be barged off the ball every 2 seconds?

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by Ellandback1 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:49 am

1964white wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:55 am
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Good morning Matt

Had the big girl's blouse left his handbag in the dressing room maybe we'd have seen more performances we witnessed at Loftus Road. A one trick pony who couldn't handle the championship

As for Anita physically he doesn't look strong or good enough. I would love to be proved wrong but I have serious reservations on this fella
Afternoon Leon, but was Cibicki given the chance?

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by hector » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:53 am

Ellandback1 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:38 am
Morning Hector.

Anita is very lightweight, there's nothing of him, at DM, is he not going to be barged off the ball every 2 seconds?
nah.....

he is a full Dutch International, that is not an easy feat..

He just needs to be in is proper position....

all people can remember is the fish out of water at full back..
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by weasel » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:52 pm

The Anita debate is certainly of interest as he only seemed to get played at left back for us whereas previously he was either a central/defensive midfielder or a rightback. He looked suspect defensively at left back but like Hector says it wasn't a position he was comfortable with. Obviously something about him to have played at the levels he has and it may well be that he fits into Bielsa's plans - we are all guessing at he formation we think Bielsa will play and suggesting players won't fit into it but until we start playing matches we won't really know what formation Bielsa goes with and he may well go with something he hasn't tried before as he will have analysed the championship and may feel that he needs new ways of playing and ideas etc to really succeed. With TC last season we saw a style of play that initially worked but then saw what happened when the flaws were exposed.

With Cibicki there is definitely skill there. He looks capable of scoring goals and creating them. However there are huge question marks over his ability to perform when things get a bit more physical - it was the Newport Cup match where he really seemed to bottle it - and also a question mark for me over his attitude as some players, at no matter what level, simply believe they are better than they are (and everyone not picking them is wrong) and as such never listen and never improve.
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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Ellandback1 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:49 am
Afternoon Leon, but was Cibicki given the chance?
Afternoon Matt

Yes he was given a chance

Made his debut v Burnley in the cup where he was woeful & subbed at half-time. Came on as a 2nd half substitute at QPR where he changed the game providing two assists for Roofe's goals. Wow I thought we had found a winger who could actually cross a ball, my deluded thoughts were soon dashed as Cibicki created virtually nothing v Norwich Hull, Burton & Birmingham, he was subbed after 55 minutes in the game at St Andrews where the rot set-in, he was never seen again in the championship & the rest of our squad threw the towel from then on as it all went downhill in the New Year

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:03 pm

hector wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:53 am
nah.....

he is a full Dutch International, that is not an easy feat..

He just needs to be in is proper position....

all people can remember is the fish out of water at full back..
And how poor are the Dutch in recent years my dear Hector ?

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by 1964white » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:21 pm

Lonergan has had his contract torn up, another one gone

Hopefully several more of last seasons rubbish squad are on their way out

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Re: The LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 5 July)

Post by faaip » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:40 am

Gandalf wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:43 am
"Player lays into coach who didn't pick him - Shock". I really hope that Victor enquired about Alfie Haaland's young lad whilst he was arranging the Cibicki deal with Molde. A swap would be good.

Not really keen on Stockdale. Would be happy with Blackman if there was a buy option.

Can't see where Anita would fit in. Bielsa likes wing backs, which Anita definitely isn't, and we have a load of central midfielders.
He's technically very good but a poor tackler/defender, I've been mulling Anita as a wingback over and I can really only see that as his only position in this formation. Ayling/Pearce and Alioski are probably our best wing backs but if MB likes Anita I can see him as cover.

Not saying your not right though
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