Samu Saiz

For everything Leeds United related and everything not - Have your say... the Marching on Together way!
Forum rules
Please be sure you are acquainted with the forum rules outlined within our FAQs.
Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:32 pm

http://the72.co.uk/110831/rumoured-inte ... ams-cited/

May be nothing in this but if there is id have snapped Valencia's hand off.

User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 64064
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by 1964white » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:11 am

Needs to pull his socks up if he wants a regular place in Bielsa's Leeds side

User avatar
gessa
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 18510
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:40 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by gessa » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:43 am

Cjay wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:32 pm
http://the72.co.uk/110831/rumoured-inte ... ams-cited/

May be nothing in this but if there is id have snapped Valencia's hand off.

Up to Christmas he was probably worth that but nowhere near after the spitting incident.
I'd take that sort of money for him but we need more numbers in first.

Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:59 pm

gessa wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:43 am
Up to Christmas he was probably worth that but nowhere near after the spitting incident.
I'd take that sort of money for him but we need more numbers in first.
Could get 2 decent players in for £9mil.if you look around.

Unfortunately doesnt seem like that has occurred to our lot.

User avatar
gessa
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 18510
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:40 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by gessa » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:34 pm

Cjay wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:59 pm
Could get 2 decent players in for £9mil.if you look around.

Unfortunately doesnt seem like that has occurred to our lot.
You're right of course but we seem to be struggling and apparently have £20M to spend.

Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:39 pm

Lot of criticism has come his way from some (me included)

And in fairness he has deserved it.

Yesterday was the sort of performance that we want, he was brilliant.

He ran with the ball, he worried defenders, he does that anyway.

But he didnt moan, he wasnt whinging and bitching and moaning.

He played the right passes most of the time.

Much more like it, hope he keeps it up.

User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 64064
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:48 pm

Cjay wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:39 pm
Lot of criticism has come his way from some (me included)

And in fairness he has deserved it.

Yesterday was the sort of performance that we want, he was brilliant.

He ran with the ball, he worried defenders, he does that anyway.

But he didnt moan, he wasnt whinging and bitching and moaning.

He played the right passes most of the time.

Much more like it, hope he keeps it up.
Saiz was seriously in danger of losing his first team place I feel

Back to his old-self yesterday & also showed better behaviour, no card waving fingers to the ref

SG90
Reserve Player
Reserve Player
Posts: 461
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:29 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by SG90 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:46 pm

Too many fans were rating him and others based on Heckaday's tenure, as if shouting "get stuck in lads" was how to get the best out of him. I was constantly told that Saiz was a League 1 player, even though he's clearly a class above most in this league. Keep his head screwed on and he will be a contender for Championship POTY.

Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:55 pm

SG90 wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:46 pm
Too many fans were rating him and others based on Heckaday's tenure, as if shouting "get stuck in lads" was how to get the best out of him. I was constantly told that Saiz was a League 1 player, even though he's clearly a class above most in this league. Keep his head screwed on and he will be a contender for Championship POTY.
Dont think it was some much that tbh.

Saiz has always had ability, in regards to holding the ball, turning and running at defenders, he was great at that.

Its the passing bit, knowing when to release the ball, game intelligence that he lacked.

If Bielsa can teach him that then as you say, POTY contender.

Long way to go, if he strings 10 games like that together then my mind will be changed.

As it is he still has to prove himself imo, prove that he really is a top quality player at this level on a consistent basis.

User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 64064
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by 1964white » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:45 pm

SG90 wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:46 pm
Too many fans were rating him and others based on Heckaday's tenure, as if shouting "get stuck in lads" was how to get the best out of him. I was constantly told that Saiz was a League 1 player, even though he's clearly a class above most in this league. Keep his head screwed on and he will be a contender for Championship POTY.
Yes if he maintains yesterday's form he'd certainly be a contender

User avatar
weasel
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 6713
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 10:28 pm
Location: Espana

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by weasel » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:57 pm

Cjay wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:55 pm

Its the passing bit, knowing when to release the ball, game intelligence that he lacked.
Sometimes though in the second half of last season it looked like his team-mates were simply not on the same wavelength and as such instead of him being able to slip a pass through he was having to wait and wait for them to make the run and by that point he was crowded out.

Samu always looked to have a good understanding with Alioski an Pablo. Hopefully Klich can be added to those who can play a bit more by instinct and make the runs for Samu to find them. I do think Samu will benefit hugely by Bielsa's tactics as players will be finding space and with all the movement it should hopefully stop the opposition double marking Samu.

I think a lot of players lost confidence last season and it makes such a huge difference.
Senor El Weasel

Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:27 pm

weasel wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:57 pm
Sometimes though in the second half of last season it looked like his team-mates were simply not on the same wavelength and as such instead of him being able to slip a pass through he was having to wait and wait for them to make the run and by that point he was crowded out.

Samu always looked to have a good understanding with Alioski an Pablo. Hopefully Klich can be added to those who can play a bit more by instinct and make the runs for Samu to find them. I do think Samu will benefit hugely by Bielsa's tactics as players will be finding space and with all the movement it should hopefully stop the opposition double marking Samu.

I think a lot of players lost confidence last season and it makes such a huge difference.
Probably some truth there tonbe fair.

When Alioski had a poor game invariably so did Samu.

But suppose thats where quality shines through.

Especially 2nd half of the season Pablo Hernandez at times was like a 1 man attack.

He is a special case though, clear to see that Pablo is a class above with his vision and all round ability. Most chances created for Pablo per game in the league, nobody created more clear cut chances.

In his prime Pablo was the same but with Saiz's pace.

Hope Sammy asks Pablo for advice, really do.

There is a class difference there which reflects in there careers.

Samu has talent but he would do well to recognise the quality his teammate had and still has and use him as a mentor.

Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:34 pm

Brilliant again yesterday (silly scoop lob aside).

If he keeps this level up he will attract attention.

He must keep it up, thats what the best players at this level do, consist performances.

Despite 2 excellent performances he only has 1 assist to show for it, credit goes to the rest of the squad, team effort, not relying on 1 person.

User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 64064
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by 1964white » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:22 pm

Back to his best

Cjay
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5335
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:01 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Cjay » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:49 pm

Needs to step up now.

He has done well this season but struggled vs Boro without Pablo.

Only has 1 assist in the league, that needs to improve.

Number 10 he needs to be a goal threat and creator.

60sUnited
Subs Bench
Subs Bench
Posts: 594
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:38 pm

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by 60sUnited » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:06 pm

Cjay wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:49 pm
Needs to step up now.

He has done well this season but struggled vs Boro without Pablo.

Only has 1 assist in the league, that needs to improve.

Number 10 he needs to be a goal threat and creator.
Fully agree Cjay, he needs to start earning his paypacket with the injuries we have !!

User avatar
faaip
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 24476
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by faaip » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:49 pm

2 assists, he set up Bamford versus Bolton. He's been dangerous but without Hernandez he's the target of the defence.
"Stepping out to Angellucci's for my coffee beans
Checking out the movies and the magazines
Waitress she watches me crossing from the Barocco Bar"

User avatar
1964white
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 64064
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:46 am
Twitter: @1964white

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by 1964white » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:05 pm

60sUnited wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:06 pm
Fully agree Cjay, he needs to start earning his paypacket with the injuries we have !!
He'll struggle without Pablo who is our biggest loss

User avatar
Dalton
Reserve Player
Reserve Player
Posts: 276
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:44 pm
Location: Location with Phil and Kirstie

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Dalton » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm

He either steps up and creates or pulls defenders away to create more space for others to do the business. Past few games he's been a bit in between. Being in the danger zone but not putting the ball on target/blocked or being crowded out to thread a killerball through
My my my, such a lot of guns around town and so few brains

User avatar
Gurj
Manager
Manager
Posts: 3016
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:22 am
Location: Birmingham

Re: Samu Saiz

Post by Gurj » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:39 pm

He, like Alioksi and even Pablo, went missing during this game last year. I hope given that experience they have learnt how to play versus Milwall and we put them in their place tomorrow. Huge test of character this especially given the injury crisis - if we come away from The New Den tomorrow with a win, it will show me and many other Leeds fans that unlike last years team, this leeds side is the real deal !
LEEDS AND FOREVER PROUD TO BE !!

Post Reply