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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:53 am



Good Morning. It's Friday 17th January, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Just when Derby must have thought they had managed to manipulate and cheat their fellow 23 Championship Clubs, the EFL swoop on the Rams issuing the following statement...

Following a review of Derby County’s Profitability and Sustainability submissions, the EFL has charged the Club for recording losses in excess of the permitted amounts provided for in EFL regulations for the three-year period ending 30 June 2018.

You can imagine what kind of devastating impact the news would have on both owners, staff and players alike. It's enough for Wayne Rooney's hair to fall out (again)! Not only did Derby owner Mel Morris sell Pride Park, and have a third party but it back again, but it was bought back for £80m, twice the value. Perhaps their (and our) sponsors 32 Red will help them out? They are allegedly funding most of Wayne Rooney's wages (£1.5m).

This news comes exactly one year on from Spygate, when Derby alleged that a Leeds spy had been arrested for breaking into their ground, hiding in the bushes with binoculars and a pair of pliers. To say this report was loosely based on a true story is as hard to believe as a Prince Andrew impact statement!





Another target slips the net as Leeds look to land Bowen

The Sun are reporting that Leeds were lining up a move for Hull’s Jarrod Bowen. The 23 year old has racked up 16 goals in the Championship this season, just two less than top scorers Ollie Watkins and Aleksandar Mitrovic. A £3m loan fee, with a £12m promotion clause is thought to be on the table.

Despite The Sun's article, North of England Sky Sports reporter Tim Thornton has rubbished the speculation saying 'I’m told that Leeds are not in for Hull forward Jarrod Bowen, despite reports linking him with a move to Elland Road'.

This news comes 24 hours after confirmation that the Whites had missed out on their latest target Andy King. The 31 year old has penned a deal with neighbours Huddersfield Town.





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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by Ratscoot » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:07 am

Morning EB et all

I fully expect the Rams to blame this all on Spygate claiming they have evidence that the original Spygate was a rouse to allow Bielsa himself break into their offices and falsify the paperwork to make it look like they are a cheating bunch of lying bar-stewards.

They are also going to sue Leeds for injury to their players during in “that car crash” as they are now claiming that Coops was driving.

I’d love Bowen to sign for us, as I think his style of play, the fact he’s happy to play a number of positions and knows how to score will fit Bielsaball perfectly
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by DavidH » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:29 am

Hahaha - if you wait long enough, Karma will find it's way back to those that deserve a revisit.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by Irish Ian » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:32 am

Morning folks,

Bowen, so what is in it for Hull?

Same as what was in it for Southampton.

Nothing.

But a £3M loan fee for 4 months for a Vhampionship player smacks of desperation on our part.

We should beg / bribe Arsenal to send Ed back, he wont get many games there behind Aubsmeyang ( apart from his 3 match ban)
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by rrfierce » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:31 am

Lets not forget that Bielsa himself said that if the Nketiah deal doesn't work out then it will be on him. He's created this situation himself. First by selling roofe, then by selling jansson and now by giving arsenal reason to recall eddie by not playing him enough.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:39 am

rrfierce wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:31 am
Lets not forget that Bielsa himself said that if the Nketiah deal doesn't work out then it will be on him. He's created this situation himself. First by selling roofe, then by selling jansson and now by giving arsenal reason to recall eddie by not playing him enough.
Really well said. Bielsa has created the problem.

Arsenal want to keep him in their first team, but he wasn't good enough for Leeds?

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Post by WhiteRose » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:23 pm

Bowen would be a great signing and I would be amazed if there were any truth in our approach for him let alone hull agreeing to it. It is just as unlikely as Grey or Adams. These are all players that are considered to be needed by their current teams and as such it would take bids above what we are capable of offering to secure them. I do think the Leeds fans are impacting our current transfer policy, orta and kinear are probably worried about the backlash if we sign relative unknowns from the continent again - though we may have no option than to resort to this.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by SaraM » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:28 pm

We're desperate for someone to blame, aren't we.
Why be happy when you could be normal.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by rab_rant » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:39 pm

Points deductions follow Gary Monk like the stench of death... First at Birmingham and all the indications point to the fact that the recent attempt by Sheffield Wednesday to sell 10 year season tickets for #4500 is a vain attempt to balance the books. I wonder how many fans have a spare 4500 lying around.

In Bielsa's last interview he went to great lengths to stress that Leeds were setting an example for the rest of the league to follow. There is something honest and upright in the way Bielsa does things. whereas Monk has been accused of receiving kickbacks from players agents if he bought them in during the transfer window. Cellini called him out on this as did Pep Colet.

We all like to think that justice will be given to those that do right and that misdeeds will be punished. In the light of this the Sheffield Wednesday victory will be a hollow one. What price salvation now Gary???

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by rrfierce » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:54 pm

SaraM wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:28 pm
We're desperate for someone to blame, aren't we.
Well yes. I like your optimism but we really are screwed if we don't go up this time. Ultimately its the people making decisions that are to blame. To fail in the same way as last season would be new levels of capitulation even for leeds.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by faaip » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:11 pm

What does we're screwed entail?
I don't like staying at home
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Cut it up, cut it up, yeah
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by BGwhite » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:25 pm

faaip wrote:What does we're screwed entail?
Fucked basically

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by 1964white » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:32 pm

rrfierce wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:54 pm
Well yes. I like your optimism but we really are screwed if we don't go up this time. Ultimately its the people making decisions that are to blame. To fail in the same way as last season would be new levels of capitulation even for leeds.
Doesn't bear thinking about tbh.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by weasel » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:57 pm

rrfierce wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:31 am
Lets not forget that Bielsa himself said that if the Nketiah deal doesn't work out then it will be on him. He's created this situation himself. First by selling roofe, then by selling jansson and now by giving arsenal reason to recall eddie by not playing him enough.
Yes I too blame Bielsa of creating the situation that sees us in an automatic promotion place.
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Post by BGwhite » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:05 pm

weasel wrote: Yes I too blame Bielsa of creating the situation that sees us in an automatic promotion place.
Yes he's done well...that's not to say the management between them have and still are papering over some gaping cracks. Some decisions have been bewildering and right now Leeds are scraping the barrel to find more than 11 players with first team experience . He's done well now let's see if he can get promotion .

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by faaip » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm

BGwhite wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:25 pm
Fucked basically

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So broke, bankrupt, out of business, no longer a Leeds United fucked?
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Post by 1964white » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:20 pm

faaip wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm
So broke, bankrupt, out of business, no longer a Leeds United fucked?
BG is probably referring to losing Phillips, White, Harrison & god forbid Marcelo, also Pablo will be another year older.

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Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:02 pm

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Post by Ellandback1 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:07 pm

Millwall have released striker Tom Elliott (29).

The former Leeds academy player has joined Salford City

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 17th January) One year from Spygate, Derby County charged for breaking FFP rules

Post by faaip » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:26 pm

1964white wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:20 pm
BG is probably referring to losing Phillips, White, Harrison & god forbid Marcelo, also Pablo will be another year older.
Ahh so not fucked then ..just picking ourselves up and starting again.
I don't like staying at home
When the moon is bleeding red
Woke up stoned in the backseat from a dream where my teeth fell out of my head
Cut it up, cut it up, yeah
Everybody's on something here. My God send chemical best friend. Skeleton whispering in my ear

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