lufc1304 wrote: ↑
Tue May 29, 2018 9:41 pm
Am I missing the point here? Robinson plead guilty, that's why he's in prison. End of story
He wasn`t represented by a lawyer with specialized knowledge (as far as is known) in regard to the accusation. The original accusation was `breach of peace` but then replaced by `contempt of court`.
He may have pleaded guilty as part of a deal. Maybe you can provide the source you have the Infos from?
The vid he made infront of the court (about 1 hour long) did seem to show before his arrest that he had some fears, was feeling uncomfortable in regard that he might get into serious trouble.
But he clearly denied having breatched the peace. The gag order imposed was rather strange too (although partially lessend in the mean time.)
Whatever...the bigger context is, that he has been intimidated over years by authorities cleary because his views aren`t the same as those of the political establishment. Being labeled and defamed as being `far right` long after he had left the EDL not least because it attracted `far right` elements.
A second point is again related to the bigger context, as for example if he (or others) are being denied, maybe uncomfortable, free speach. (Again specifically in regard to anything to do with critizising Islam.)
Naming the gang grooming and raping activities, not least those those related to muslims, way before the authorities started to investigate against These can`t have done his popularity any good either. So him being used as a scapegoat to distract the failures of authorities. (The press being warned not to label any gang rapes as being done by `asians` or `muslims`, and thereby following the rather lenient approach of the authorities towards Islam/Muslims in general.)
If Robinson acted outside the law then he he should be punished like ANY OTHER person would be.
But there are reasonable doubts that his Arrest (or lengh of sentecing) wasn`t solely down to unlawful actions, but also a political motivated act of seting a warning example.
So it is the antagonistic accusations he was arrested and then sentenced for, the very fast conviction (maybe without a competent solicitor), the lengh of the sentence, his life being put under potential threat by muslim inmates (he was attacked the last time he was in prison...I would definately not go so far to assume that the authorities want exactly that to happen again, and be it for a probable severe backlash from the public...but they must be pleased to got rid of him for the time being), the gag order, a symbolic gesture towards the working-classes fears and interests, demonstrating the ignorance of authorities towards a vast part of society, and the wider context of his activities in general where questions can rightfully be put forward.
In regard to this debate here, again people accusing him of being racist, `far right` etc. clearly without acknowledging that his views have changed in the last 6 years made me answer maybe a bit too spiteful. No problems with people not agreeing with his views (as example believing that his actions are more harmful than helpful in regard to the integration of muslims by provocing hatred, assessing the potential danger of Islam or radikal muslims differently etc.), but defaming him as this or that is just not right. (He does claim that the Islam based on parts of the Koran/Haddith is a potentially fascist ieology, and it would be hard to denie the rightfulness of such claim. The same could be said of the Bible, and until the 18th century such was demonstrated by the catholic church...where possible they still act to a certain extent in a similar way. What a religion or its representatives are moraly worth shows as soon as they have the wordly power to form societies to their will, or how they organize themselves within. Even the `peacful` tibetian buddhism had built a rigorous hierarchic society with all priviledges only for the buddhist elite with the current Dalai Lama at the top of the pyramid...the reason the Dalai Lama in exil said quite irritating - concidering the amount of deaths and suffering it had caused - that the Chinese invasion may had been necessary put an end to such ancient form the tibetain society . The Dalai Lama not only being the spiritual but also political leader etc., as the Sharia believers would prefer it and certainly would install if they had the power to do so.)
End of lecture. (Doubt I`ll raise another political issue in near future, certainly doesn`t seem worth the time and hassle...learning from experience I guess that`s called. Not to make the same mistake twice...)