Sorry missed the Pablo part, not sure he’s a better player this year but he is one of our most professional and established and kept going better than most. If that is where our coaching staff have been applying themselves they are surely not the right people for the job
Should never have been captain in the first placeDalton wrote: ↑Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:17 am 2018 has brought us 12 points from 18 games.
not even relegation form. More like bottom of the table by a long way form.
I would say the Captain could/should do better on his own organising the troops to perform and do better than the manager has but even the captain cant stay on the pitch.
The players - they were supposedly asked to vote and chose him - shows that for whatever reasons they see him as a leader. Not many other options at the time really as Bartley had gone. Only other real contenders were Jannson, Hernandez and Wood. Now 2 out of those other 3 options only speak English as a second language o communication might not have always been easy and perhaps the players knew Wood was likely to be leaving. Not saying Cooper would have been my choice but you can see why the players would have chosen him.
Pontus' English is pretty good, I struggle to understand Pablo though. I think captain was Bridcutt last year.weasel wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:41 pm The players - they were supposedly asked to vote and chose him - shows that for whatever reasons they see him as a leader. Not many other options at the time really as Bartley had gone. Only other real contenders were Jannson, Hernandez and Wood. Now 2 out of those other 3 options only speak English as a second language o communication might not have always been easy and perhaps the players knew Wood was likely to be leaving. Not saying Cooper would have been my choice but you can see why the players would have chosen him.
PJ's is pretty good but still his second language so you then have the situation of him using his second language trying to communicate with others who have english as a second language or just a basic grasp of english. Yeah think Bridcutt was captain with Bartley vice captain but it did seem like Bartley acted more like the captain in terms of driving the team etc
Errr no we wouldn't. If he was any good he wouldn't be going from bologna to leeds he'd be going from bologna to a prem team. He's hardly set the world alight at bolognaSG90 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:48 pm Because we didn't show enough ambition and I blame AR for that. We decided to give Cooper a 4 year deal instead, when if we'd signed Helander, we'd be top 6 right now. Helander is on £4k a week and is ooc in 2019, Adam and Hernandez are ooc this summer, so we have no excuses not to look at them.
A regular for Bologna this season, something Pontus never achieved at Torino.
To little options for me. Should have added the alternatives: `whatever` and `if a better manager is available`.
Would struggle to find a manager who has done worse then PH this season.
That would be indeed the argument which would make the sacking of Heck look intelligent whatever (follows.) That is: If it is a fair refletion of what he can achieve whatver (club, players etc., he haad a good spell at Barnsley I believe).
The trouble for me is that his good spell came at the start when the team was already playing well and winning (the previous manager doing well and then leaving when offered the Bristol City manager job). As such it is very easy to wonder if the team simply kept on doing what they were doing irrespective of the manager. Then as PH's time in charge increased the results started tailing off - again you have to wonder is that because of the way he managed (did he alienate players, were his tactics poor, could he not motivate players etc). The end of his time there saw them winning just 1 or 2 in the last 16 and losing 4 (and drawing 1) of his last 5 matches. The team was in complete free fall and the only excuse seemed to be that some of the better players were sold - but for me it just seems like a convenient excuse, like the ones he is trotting out before and after every match here, as all clubs lose decent players be they sold or injured but good managers still manage to get results. It wasn't like he was getting good results despite them selling the best players he was staring at relegation with 27 points from 30 matches this season. PH talks about overachieving but he was not overachieving in any way at Barnsley.
Feel the same, Ronan. Been a supporter of this club for over 40 years, and I don't think I've ever felt as disillusioned as I do at the minute. 80s relegation, even the meltdown in 04, these had a unifying effect on the club and the fanbase, a determination to get back to where we believed we belonged. Feels like an awfully long time ago now. There ARE positives around the club; U18s have a chance of winning their league, U23s playing some lovely stuff with a few players looking like they might make the grade, ER back in our hands etc. But at the sharp end, we are about to finish yet another season with a whimper when, for half a season, it looked like there was a chance of a bang at the end. Our senior management panicked when our coach, who had us playing some good stuff (and some not so good stuff), came unstuck and was struggling to turn things around. Instead of staying calm, they played to the gallery, sacked the manager and made, with the possible exception of Dave Hockaday, the most uninspiring appointment I can remember. This season can't finish soon enough, though I dread to think what next season will bring if we stick with this clown.
The Hock had a better Points per game and win ratiolufc1304 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:11 pm Feel the same, Ronan. Been a supporter of this club for over 40 years, and I don't think I've ever felt as disillusioned as I do at the minute. 80s relegation, even the meltdown in 04, these had a unifying effect on the club and the fanbase, a determination to get back to where we believed we belonged. Feels like an awfully long time ago now. There ARE positives around the club; U18s have a chance of winning their league, U23s playing some lovely stuff with a few players looking like they might make the grade, ER back in our hands etc. But at the sharp end, we are about to finish yet another season with a whimper when, for half a season, it looked like there was a chance of a bang at the end. Our senior management panicked when our coach, who had us playing some good stuff (and some not so good stuff), came unstuck and was struggling to turn things around. Instead of staying calm, they played to the gallery, sacked the manager and made, with the possible exception of Dave Hockaday, the most uninspiring appointment I can remember. This season can't finish soon enough, though I dread to think what next season will bring if we stick with this clown.
