Liam Cooper
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Re: Liam Cooper
Yeah but is it worth risking bad feeling in the dressing room? ..
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Re: Liam Cooper
I'm hoping Pennington remains injury-free & has a couple of stormers v the Blunts & Bristol City then Heck would have to make a firm decision on the captaincy however it would lay a marker down & definitely show who is boss if decided on his captain for the season before tomorrow's game
Re: Liam Cooper
Lovely ball to Dallas.
Unfortunately he isn't a ball playing midfielder.
He is a defender, he didn't defend well. The header for the 1st was pathetic.
As captain he should take charge of situations, he didnt.
Didnt justify his selection at all.
Unfortunately he isn't a ball playing midfielder.
He is a defender, he didn't defend well. The header for the 1st was pathetic.
As captain he should take charge of situations, he didnt.
Didnt justify his selection at all.
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Re: Liam Cooper
And yet again another manager makes him captain. You just have to wonder why a player that shouldn't be in the starting XI (yes probably better than the alternatives in our squad but we should have bought/loaned in better) should be given the armband? People have a go at Wiedwald yet Cooper should have done better on both goals and should also have scored.
Re: Liam Cooper
Better from Captain Marvel . . . . .
Defended well on the whole, and finally scored a header.
He can play well, just not consistent.
Defended well on the whole, and finally scored a header.
He can play well, just not consistent.
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Re: Liam Cooper
That's the trouble - he needs to do it consistently and stop the reckless tackles too.
Re: Liam Cooper
IMO an ok squad player for the Championship but no more than that, for every good game he has a 3 or 4 poor games and a sending off is never far away
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Re: Liam Cooper
Was a contender for MOTM yesterday
Sorry to sound cynical but I'm just anticipating his next crucial error
Sorry to sound cynical but I'm just anticipating his next crucial error
Re: Liam Cooper
It looks like Liam Cooper's injury was worse then first thought. I would expect to see him again this season.
"Liam`s badly swollen and there was lots of bleeding," Heckingbottom told the Yorkshire Evening Post.
"Time will tell but with the size of it and his lack of mobility at the minute, I can`t see him training for a while."
I'm not a fan of Captain Chaos but I wouldn't wish a bad injury on any footballer, hope he makes a quick recovery
"Liam`s badly swollen and there was lots of bleeding," Heckingbottom told the Yorkshire Evening Post.
"Time will tell but with the size of it and his lack of mobility at the minute, I can`t see him training for a while."
I'm not a fan of Captain Chaos but I wouldn't wish a bad injury on any footballer, hope he makes a quick recovery
Re: Liam Cooper
As it seems very unlikely we are signing a new cb we will have to get used to Cooper again.
"We never truly recovered from the Millwall game". . . That was him speaking in May i think about a game in September.
What does that say about him and his team mates.
He may be a lovely guy (i think he probably is, seems to be in interviews).
He may be popular with the squad.
He may really try hard and love being at Leeds (hello Kalvin).
He is not now, wasnt when he arrived and never ever will be a promotion level player.
We wont get promoted if Liam Cooper is a regular, happy for that to be rubbed in my face if we do, but i am 100% certain we won't.
Garry Monk knew this (we finished 7th).
How many chances does he get?
He missed 6 7 8 games i cant remember through suspension last season.
He is a liability.
Bielsa is meant to be world class, cant he see that?
"We never truly recovered from the Millwall game". . . That was him speaking in May i think about a game in September.
What does that say about him and his team mates.
He may be a lovely guy (i think he probably is, seems to be in interviews).
He may be popular with the squad.
He may really try hard and love being at Leeds (hello Kalvin).
He is not now, wasnt when he arrived and never ever will be a promotion level player.
We wont get promoted if Liam Cooper is a regular, happy for that to be rubbed in my face if we do, but i am 100% certain we won't.
Garry Monk knew this (we finished 7th).
How many chances does he get?
He missed 6 7 8 games i cant remember through suspension last season.
He is a liability.
Bielsa is meant to be world class, cant he see that?
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Re: Liam Cooper
People think that players can't improve once they're past 22/23 now because of FIFA, but there's no reason why Cooper's overall game couldn't take a step up with different coaching. He's looked steady in the preseason games I watched.
The whole team lacked confidence in the second half of last season and that was down to many factors - don't think you can pin that directly on Cooper.
He's another player who gets unfairly criticised imo and one who the boo boys always target... Wonder what that does to a player's game, knowing that some of the fans are baying for him to make a mistake, just so that they can rip him on social media.
People focus on what they want to see and in the case of some of our players, I feel like fans take notes on every mistake rather than focus on the aspects which are positive.
People hated and slated Bamba (the ever hilarious 'Bambi on ice') and said he wasn't good enough for the Championship - too old, too slow etc. He's just been promoted two years after leaving us.
Tom Lees has done well since leaving us - top 6 two years in a row before last season. Was linked with Huddersfield when they went up.
I wish people would leave off the preconceptions of players, or would be willing to let themselves be proved wrong...
People saying that the coaches see more of Vieira etc, so obviously he's not rated, are the same people asking why Cooper is consistently picked - "Can't they see what we're seeing?". We don't see what the coaches see and clearly Cooper is a big influence considering he's been captain for 3 seasons...
The whole team lacked confidence in the second half of last season and that was down to many factors - don't think you can pin that directly on Cooper.
He's another player who gets unfairly criticised imo and one who the boo boys always target... Wonder what that does to a player's game, knowing that some of the fans are baying for him to make a mistake, just so that they can rip him on social media.
People focus on what they want to see and in the case of some of our players, I feel like fans take notes on every mistake rather than focus on the aspects which are positive.
People hated and slated Bamba (the ever hilarious 'Bambi on ice') and said he wasn't good enough for the Championship - too old, too slow etc. He's just been promoted two years after leaving us.
Tom Lees has done well since leaving us - top 6 two years in a row before last season. Was linked with Huddersfield when they went up.
I wish people would leave off the preconceptions of players, or would be willing to let themselves be proved wrong...
People saying that the coaches see more of Vieira etc, so obviously he's not rated, are the same people asking why Cooper is consistently picked - "Can't they see what we're seeing?". We don't see what the coaches see and clearly Cooper is a big influence considering he's been captain for 3 seasons...
Re: Liam Cooper
Valid points Genghers but I can't help thinking we missed the boat with not only Bartley but Aden Flint as well, both of whom are better central defenders IMO and are more likely to chip in with a few goals from set pieces.Genghers wrote: ↑Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:46 am People think that players can't improve once they're past 22/23 now because of FIFA, but there's no reason why Cooper's overall game couldn't take a step up with different coaching. He's looked steady in the preseason games I watched.
The whole team lacked confidence in the second half of last season and that was down to many factors - don't think you can pin that directly on Cooper.
He's another player who gets unfairly criticised imo and one who the boo boys always target... Wonder what that does to a player's game, knowing that some of the fans are baying for him to make a mistake, just so that they can rip him on social media.
People focus on what they want to see and in the case of some of our players, I feel like fans take notes on every mistake rather than focus on the aspects which are positive.
People hated and slated Bamba (the ever hilarious 'Bambi on ice') and said he wasn't good enough for the Championship - too old, too slow etc. He's just been promoted two years after leaving us.
Tom Lees has done well since leaving us - top 6 two years in a row before last season. Was linked with Huddersfield when they went up.
I wish people would leave off the preconceptions of players, or would be willing to let themselves be proved wrong...
People saying that the coaches see more of Vieira etc, so obviously he's not rated, are the same people asking why Cooper is consistently picked - "Can't they see what we're seeing?". We don't see what the coaches see and clearly Cooper is a big influence considering he's been captain for 3 seasons...
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Re: Liam Cooper
I would have liked to see Bartley back as well - he, Jansson and Ayling had a decent chemistry in that season and with Douglas on the left they would have made a solid back four.
Don't know much about Flint other than the fact that he's huge!
Don't know much about Flint other than the fact that he's huge!
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Re: Liam Cooper
Coop is just fine as a CB3, and can do a job this season as our number 2..Still maintain he's not a captain though. We need a proper captain
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Re: Liam Cooper
He was brilliant yesterday.
When Berardi totally messed up it looked a certain goal, it should have been, but Liam did excellently.
Great positioning.
He won his headers, he didnt dive in, he was fantastic.
Now he has to be like this more often then not, had good games before.
Time to show consistency.
When Berardi totally messed up it looked a certain goal, it should have been, but Liam did excellently.
Great positioning.
He won his headers, he didnt dive in, he was fantastic.
Now he has to be like this more often then not, had good games before.
Time to show consistency.
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Re: Liam Cooper
Agree totally CjayCjay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:46 pm He was brilliant yesterday.
When Berardi totally messed up it looked a certain goal, it should have been, but Liam did excellently.
Great positioning.
He won his headers, he didnt dive in, he was fantastic.
Now he has to be like this more often then not, had good games before.
Time to show consistency.