Leeds v Watford: Team/Reports/Ratings

drsdadsotherson · Post by **drsdadsotherson** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:02 pm

Yet another pile of useless s**t.

I don't know why I still bother.

woodfordwhites · Post by **woodfordwhites** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:04 pm

the moor we lose the quicker the hock goes.surely shirly

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:05 pm

drsdadsotherson wrote:Yet another pile of useless s**t.

I don't know why I still bother.

Hmmm. That sounded slightly negative.

Prepare to be branded.

The Subhuman · Post by **The Subhuman** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:19 pm

missed it ...more important semi going on elsewhere

theleedsmango · Post by **theleedsmango** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:20 pm

Mods, can we please lock this topic up and just forget about this game?!

The Subhuman · Post by **The Subhuman** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:24 pm

theleedsmango wrote:Mods, can we please lock this topic up and just forget about this game?!

let the haters have their moan...this is their time, they should enjoy it ..

danhirons · Post by **danhirons** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:28 pm

faaip wrote:

let the haters have their moan...this is their time, they should enjoy it ..

i think after three loses, and a flukey win fans are well entitled to have a bit of a moan at a very poor start...or maybe we should be happy sitting 21st

theleedsmango · Post by **theleedsmango** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:36 pm

[quote="faaip"

theleedsmango wrote:Mods, can we please lock this topic up and just forget about this game?!

let the haters have their moan...this is their time, they should enjoy it ..[/quote]

Ah come off it. People weren't 'hating' and people won't be 'enjoying their time' after a Leeds defeat. Many just pointed out that this was the same shot-gun approach that previous regimes have done in signing players and picking teams. We haven't had a plan, and it's a shame because for the first time we've had a large sum of money come in for a player and it's being reinvested, we just haven't had the manager in place to control the transfer selections.

I disagreed with the signing of Hockaday but was willing to get behind him and more than happy to be proven wrong. Many still bring up McDermott and Warnock every chance they get. I assure you, being against the selection of Hockaday was never about picking sides just for the hope of gloating, it was simply common sense pointing out the probability of failure.

The Subhuman · Post by **The Subhuman** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:56 pm

theleedsmango wrote:

let the haters have their moan...this is their time, they should enjoy it ..

Ah come off it. People weren't 'hating' and people won't be 'enjoying their time' after a Leeds defeat. Many just pointed out that this was the same shot-gun approach that previous regimes have done in signing players and picking teams. We haven't had a plan, and it's a shame because for the first time we've had a large sum of money come in for a player and it's being reinvested, we just haven't had the manager in place to control the transfer selections.

I disagreed with the signing of Hockaday but was willing to get behind him and more than happy to be proven wrong. Many still bring up McDermott and Warnock every chance they get. I assure you, being against the selection of Hockaday was never about picking sides just for the hope of gloating, it was simply common sense pointing out the probability of failure.[/quote]

I can't defend the start, it's awful, So I'm happy for all those who think Hockaday is a cheap talentless coach to enjoy the vilification of their views....is my point

rab_rant · Post by **rab_rant** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:59 pm

Hockaday has the tactical nous of a lump of coal.
The past two games he has taken off Billy Sharp
the only man who was scored goals this season
in the championship in a Leeds shirt.

Cozy · Post by **Cozy** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:06 pm

theleedsmango wrote:I assure you, being against the selection of Hockaday was never about picking sides just for the hope of gloating, it was simply common sense pointing out the probability of failure.

Spot on!

Hockaday is clearly tactically out of his depth or is simply acting upon orders from above on team selection - either way he's the wrong man for what is a massive job with a massive weight of expectation.

I read somewhere that Hockaday was responsible for the signing of Sharp and Cooper while the rest of the signings have been 'given' to him. If that's the case and Hockaday is picking the team and is responsible for the tactics why's he not sticking with HIS signings and taking them off when they are a) his choices & b) probably more match fit/ready for Championship football.

Whether Hockaday is the fall guy or is getting his orders from above - he can't honestly defend his substitution of Sharp today when he'd got a unproven at this level debutant on the pitch playing alongside him who could have been sacrificed instead.

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:57 pm

Cellino said he wanted a coach not a manager. He has employed a coach but given him many of a manager's responsibilities. I have been all for giving him some time to get his squad to gel and integrate a kit of new players. That opinion is looking more and more difficult to justify.

MeeTa · Post by **MeeTa** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:58 pm

Adam Pope ‏@APOPEY
#lufc Not confirmed but David Hockaday's Leeds United tenure looks precarious. I understand Cellino very upset after 4-1 defeat at Watford.

MOTliam · Post by **MOTliam** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:43 pm

COR BLIMEY

ldsutd · Post by **ldsutd** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:48 pm

I was in Liverpool visiting my son today so missed the game. I have seen the result and read the comments on here and Facebook/Twitter it doesn't make for good reading. I will be surprised if Hock is still in charge if we get embarrassed in the cup game. From what I had been reading at 1.1 we had a good spell is this true? if so did we lose to some bad luck and technical errors that could be rectified with time and giving the team time to jell or was we totally sh**e today?

Ronan · Post by **Ronan** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:06 pm

Yet again we are turning into a laughing stock....ffs,when will ever stop

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:16 pm

The down side to -

Not worrying about how we do until we get the system and tactics right

- is, that it ignores the potential for fear and demoralisation that can result from successive defeats (like, e.g., 18 of ‘em).
So, we do need to bag the odd fluky win in order to prevent Serial Sphincter Special Syndrome, which would make “Tuesday's messy dressing room” after the game seem but a balmy breeze and a pleasant sprinkling by comparison.
Realistic fellers them bookies. I often wondered if there was a subliminal element in their quoted odds, which are rarely misplaced. As far as football goes I reckon they can, in addition to causing the teensiest nipping of the a*se, also induce Vertigo. I know you generally have to be (or for your chemical concoction of choice to make you think you are) at height for vertigo to be induced and we are in 21st place, but the height comes from the view below to L1. It would be interesting to climb out of L1 again I suppose, but of course it’s not going to happen because this is a positive post.

I didn’t do nothing to suggest that we couldn’t not stay in this division – there, only double negatives which, as we all know……….!

I sincerely hope that our eclectic band of Leeds-supporting brothers and sisters will have a more cheerful weekend than the scoreline suggests we should.

There’s really plenty of time for things to come good, despite the misgivings we all must have.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:38 pm

faaip wrote:

let the haters have their moan...this is their time, they should enjoy it ..

There you are DDOS, I said you would be branded.

In this new Evangelist religion of Massimo the Divine, anything less than full throated approval of every decision and every result makes you a heretic.

Welcome brother.

The Subhuman · Post by **The Subhuman** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:39 pm

Guildford White wrote:
There you are DDOS, I said you would be branded.

In this new Evangelist religion of Massimo the Divine, anything less than full throated approval of every decision and every result makes you a heretic.

Welcome brother.

ooh bullshit...

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:36 pm

I would expect no other response.